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John Bertotti
Jun-30-2005, 8:49pm
Ok so now I'm venturing into the world of chords. Specifically in rock music and maybe a bit of funk or jazz. Stuff like days of the new and or Dr. Hook and others. I hear the music and want to emulate it the best I can on a mandolin. Any suggestions for getting the best chords? Can I use the guitar progressions and then use a mando equivalent chord? Now I'm not sure I'm even asking the right questions here but I think you get the picture. Thanks John

glauber
Jun-30-2005, 9:09pm
"Mandocrucian" Niles Hokkanen (http://www.btinternet.com/~john.baldry/mando/hokkanen.html) has a good mandolin chord book. Ted Eschliman ("mandohack") has a good article (click) (http://www.jazzmando.com/mandolin_chord_economics.shtml) on how to create good mandolin chords.

bjc
Jul-03-2005, 7:20am
And there is the Mandolin Chord Finder Book by Hal Leonard...it has a lot of diferent voicings, thought it would be impossible to list ALL the voicing for EVERY chord in ALL positions, but I've found it as a good place to start. And I agree that Jazzmando (AKA "THE MANDOHACK SITE") has a lot of good information.

Bruce Evans
Jul-03-2005, 9:02am
Can I use the guitar progressions and then use a mando equivalent chord?
The name of the chord (C, Am, Bb7, etc.) will be the same whether you are playing guitar, mandolin or whatever. The shape of the chord will certainly be different on the mandolin than on a guitar. Get one of the chord books the other guys have mentioned.

John Bertotti
Jul-03-2005, 2:01pm
glauber, bjc, tocotodo. hanks. good resources and tocotodo that is the answer I needed. Thanks John

Now to search the sites listed!

groveland
Jul-03-2005, 2:58pm
Also, on one thread there is a brief discussion describing the algorithm to build a voicing for any chord on mandolin, and the algorithm for making all inversions for any of those voicings on the mandolin... Knowing this might diminish the need for a chord encyclopedia.
Toward the end of the thread... Building chords discussion (click here) (http://www.mandolincafe.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=4;t=23165;hl=grovel)

John Bertotti
Jul-03-2005, 3:53pm
I have the Ohmson book. It goes into extreme detail about chord construction. It almost seems that is most of what the book is. My biggest concern was if a guitar piece calling for a C7 chord would mean I would use a C7 chord on the mandolin. I gather from the above posts and some of the stuff I've read that that is the case.
I wonder though if that is always the case? Will chords from one instrument always be the chords I use on a mandolin? I don't have an example but just for argument would there be a case where the guitar chord won't be desirable but maybe an alternate voicing instead? I'm trying to say not a C7 for a C7 or an augmented 13th for an augmented 13th. Does that make sense? Thanks John

8ch(pl)
Jul-03-2005, 4:33pm
Craig, I really like your chord building diagrams. I have printed them up and will give them a study in the near future.

John Bertotti
Jul-03-2005, 5:12pm
groveland just checked out that link. Thanks it'll be awhile before I full absorb it. Thanks John

groveland
Jul-03-2005, 5:13pm
Glen - Thanks!

John - As you said, (and like Tocotodo said) a C7 on the mandolin is made of the same set of notes (or subset of those notes) as on guitar, piano, etc. #

You can find shapes made of this set of notes (C,E,G,Bb) all over the neck of the mando. #They are all C7. #The guitar player will find completely different shapes made of these same notes. #They are all C7. You and the guitar player can play your individual choices of any of these 'voicings' of the C7 together, and they will sound just dandy.


I wonder though if that is always the case

That is always the case.

John Bertotti
Jul-04-2005, 8:06am
groveland thanks this is all most enlightening. Everyone have a great fourth. John

ira
Jul-07-2005, 2:20pm
http://chordfind.com/4-string/

this site has been great for me. chords are simple, but there is also a way to look at more complex versions. even a lefty possibility.

groveland
Jul-14-2005, 10:45am
This might help diminish the need for a chord encyclopedia. Go here: How to Construct Chords on the Mandolin (http://www.grovelandsoftwarelabs.com/modeexplorerweb/home/lessons/mandolin/chords.aspx)