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JL277z
Aug-06-2017, 7:52am
I found this while looking for other stuff on YouTube, looks like it's brand new as of yesterday... I know y'all are always saying how good Sierra Hull is, but I didn't realize just exactly how much of a genuine artist she is until I heard this...

Gospel song "People Get Ready", Sierra Hull on mandolin & vocals. I don't know who the bass player is, but I really like his playing too, :mandosmiley: fabulous, seems like the perfect match for the mandolin and voice. I can't stop listening to it! :mandosmiley:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByuSI-ZdnVM
(or direct link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByuSI-ZdnVM))

I like her singing on this one, the way the voice blends with the bass, sets the perfect mood for this song.

I also like the syncopation (is that the right word?) with some of the words, she changes it up a little but never loses the beat.

It's my new favorite version of that song, :mandosmiley: and I've heard dozens of other versions by many different artists (some famous, some not) going all the way back to the 1960s. All the versions are good in different ways, but I like the vibe and 'edge' that this one has.

(I like it so much I actually went and logged in to give it a thumbs-up and a comment, which I very seldom ever do - comments, that is.)

UsuallyPickin
Aug-06-2017, 9:56am
I always like this song. Well done ....

Bertram Henze
Aug-06-2017, 11:06am
I must admit that I couldn't avert my eyes from the bass player - apparently he has some gadgets on his instrument I haven't seen before on a bass, such as drop tuners.

You say there's Sierra Hull in that video? :grin:

mrmando
Aug-06-2017, 11:15am
Ethan Jodziewicz on bass.
http://www.ethanjodziewicz.com/

AlanN
Aug-06-2017, 11:33am
Lovely.

StuartE
Aug-06-2017, 12:04pm
"People Get Ready" is truly an iconic song, covered by many, and this is an outstanding one. It's easy to assume that it is a gospel song proper, but we ought to give credit to Curtis Mayfield who wrote it and the group he led, the Impressions who had a no. 3 R&B and no. 14 pop hit with it in 1965. Rolling Stone named it no 24 in their 500 greatest songs list. It is really an African American freedom song

Nick Royal
Aug-06-2017, 8:51pm
Another great version of the song is by the late Eva Cassidy.

JL277z
Aug-06-2017, 10:43pm
I must admit that I couldn't avert my eyes from the bass player - ...

Lol yeah me too, took me a while to realize that something was different about the bass itself...


... apparently he has some gadgets on his instrument I haven't seen before on a bass, such as drop tuners. ...

Guess it's sort of the bass equivalent of Keith tuners (http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Musician/Banjo/KeithTuners/keithtuners.html) :cool: although a different mechanism. To get a better look at it, I temporarily changed my browser from its usual low-bandwidth blurry 360p, to high definition (nice & sharp), then I zoomed the browser in for a closer look... definitely an interesting-looking contraption on the peghead.

I sure like his playing. :mandosmiley: I tend to naturally focus my ears on the bass sounds in most music anyway, especially when it has a bunch of interesting note runs like that guy's playing does.


Ethan Jodziewicz on bass.
http://www.ethanjodziewicz.com/

Thanks! I looked around that website some, turns out he's been playing music with Sierra Hull for a while now, guess I haven't been keeping up.


"People Get Ready" is truly an iconic song, covered by many, and this is an outstanding one. It's easy to assume that it is a gospel song proper, but we ought to give credit to Curtis Mayfield who wrote it and the group he led, the Impressions who had a no. 3 R&B and no. 14 pop hit with it in 1965. Rolling Stone named it no 24 in their 500 greatest songs list. ...

Good points.


... It is really an African American freedom song

That's a good point too, I hadn't thought of it that way until you mentioned it, guess that's the beauty of great artistic works is that they can be applicable to and appreciated by a wide variety of people of differing backgrounds.

I noticed that the United Methodist hymnal (1989 edition) has a number of hymns, 30 to be exact, some of them rather mainstream, attributed as "Afro-American spirituals". Several of those seem likely candidates to have started out as "African American freedom songs" but they also make pretty good all-around general-purpose hymns.

Reminds me of Star Trek, :whistling: :grin: each viewer has a slightly different angle of approach/interpretation (ranging from literal to allegory or whatever the right word is) but the topics are sort of universal.


Another great version of the song is by the late Eva Cassidy.

Yup, that's a good one too. :)

Bill McCall
Aug-06-2017, 11:26pm
.... I can't stop listening to it! :mandosmiley:


I prefer this a little more traditional gospel sounding, especially without the bass noise. I was able to stop listening. Ymmv of course.

mandocaster
Aug-06-2017, 11:49pm
I love it. Beautiful voice, tone, taste. It makes me happy.

JL277z
Aug-07-2017, 12:17am
I prefer this a little more traditional gospel sounding, especially without the bass noise. I was able to stop listening. Ymmv of course.

Of course everyone has different preferences, that's cool. :)

The very first time I heard this song was by The Chambers Brothers, yes I know they weren't actually the first to sing it, but this is what I heard:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-MrTaXpy0w
(or direct link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-MrTaXpy0w))

... I love the harmonies and I listened to that recording quite a bit, *but* I had to turn my treble control *all* the way down to try to rid the recording of the too-prominent snare drum :crying: (or whatever it is that makes that shrill high-pitched off-beat percussive noise that sounds like breaking glass on the 3-beat of each measure). I don't understand why the studio people decided to turn that up so high. That was actually what prompted me, years ago, to seek out alternative and newer versions of this song.

Unfortunately my high-frequency hearing has always been pretty keen, and it's the higher frequencies that are always the first to become irritating to me. I'm one of those people who can often hear the high-pitched mosquito-like whine from various cheap power-supply transformers (wall-brick chargers for various battery-powered things such as cell phones etc), 2 out of 3 of our house's dimmer switches, trad lightbulbs right before they burn out, etc, although I've managed to mentally "tune that out" to where it doesn't bother me. And no, I'm not young, far from it. :))

I would love to hear a proper remixed version of that original Chambers Brothers recording where they dialed-down the snare-drum percussion to a more tolerable level. Car stereo or home stereo tone controls can only do so much.

As to the Chamber Bros recorded mix, it might just be me, though. Never heard anyone else complain about it, although I haven't went around asking people ;) about it either, so who knows.

I think a lot of what seems 'good', is pretty heavily dependent on which frequencies a particular listener's ears can hear.

In this household, I'm the high-frequency hearer who dislikes the shrill ear-piercing springtime bird sounds, whereas my wonderful significant other can't hear those at *all* (he has significant high-frequency hearing loss from years of workplace noise exposure)... but *his* pet-peeve is the low-pitched cooing sound of the very mellow doves in the trees out back (I can barely hear that at all, certainly doesn't bother me). He can also hear the distant low-pitched rumble of the freight train miles away, long before I can hear it, however I can hear the distant shrill high-pitched train whistle before he can.

I would think it would be tough trying to make decisions as to how to mix songs, when there are so many variables as to people's ears, what types of audio gear they're using (big headphones, car speakers, little bitty earbuds etc).

You know what would be cool, although I suppose not practical due to worries about theft of music, would be if each instrument's track was separately controllable by the consumer. Each listener could create their own custom mix. They could selectively turn up/down/off instruments and vocals to suit themselves. I've tried to do similar with equalizers but doesn't really work, maybe I'm doing it wrong or not using the right equipment (cheap stuff), dunno.

Yeah I know, I'm off-topic, but hey (FWIW) :whistling: I'm the OP :) and personally I like off-topic tangents once in a while, that's how I learn new stuff. :)

JL277z
Aug-07-2017, 12:18am
... It makes me happy.

Me too. :)

mrmando
Aug-07-2017, 1:22am
I think that's a "low C extension" on Ethan's bass. Enables the E string to go down to C. A lot of orchestral bass players use them, because composers of late have taken to writing bass parts that go that low.

mrmando
Aug-07-2017, 3:49pm
In a just world, Sierra and Ethan's arrangement would be released as a single and eligible for Grammy awards in the folk and gospel categories. It's that good.

JL277z
Aug-08-2017, 12:30am
I think that's a "low C extension" on Ethan's bass. Enables the E string to go down to C. A lot of orchestral bass players use them, because composers of late have taken to writing bass parts that go that low.

Thank you! :mandosmiley: Looks like you're right, I Googled for "low C extension" and the pics look nearly the same as the contraption in the video (minor variations between makers, apparently). Knowing the correct search phrase makes all the difference, I hadn't got anywhere with my earlier searches for "keith tuners for bass" lol (didn't know how else to describe it), but searching for "low c extension" pulled the info right up. Thanks again! :)


In a just world, Sierra and Ethan's arrangement would be released as a single and eligible for Grammy awards in the folk and gospel categories. It's that good.

+1 (I agree completely). :mandosmiley:



Free quick tutorial: MuseScore 2 write your own music and tab (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwnO-OfJUnA).

Bertram Henze
Aug-08-2017, 6:36am
I Googled for "low C extension" and the pics look nearly the same as the contraption in the video

Interesting. I have been in the audience for orchestras all my life (and preferably on the side where basses and cellos are, 'cos that's where the groove is), but I have never yet seen this contraption live.

Monster capos on a fiddle! What next? ~:>

JL277z
Aug-08-2017, 9:23pm
Interesting. I have been in the audience for orchestras all my life (and preferably on the side where basses and cellos are, 'cos that's where the groove is), but I have never yet seen this contraption live. ...

From the reading I've done today, it looks like the type of orchestra bass one sees, depends on where one lives in the world.

Apparently the options are: 4-string bass with C extension, or 5 string bass with *no* extension.

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bass#C_extension) says:


"In Britain, the USA and Canada, most professional orchestral players use four-string double basses with a C extension."

Slightly contradicting Wikipedia's statement about UK orchestras, a bass website by Bill Bentgen (http://www.billbentgen.com/bass/5_string-basses.htm) says:


"... all three major London orchestras use 5 string basses."

That site also says:


"... German orchestras use 5 string basses..."

Thus, apparently, a person going to German orchestras or the "three major London orchestras" would see a 5 string bass with no extensions, rather than a 4 string bass with a C extension.

Mind you this is all just hearsay from today's preliminary internet search-engine results, as I've never been to an orchestra in my life, the only time I've ever seen a bass fiddle is when it's accompanying fiddle tunes at a jam or dance, so I'm clearly not an orchestral bass expert! :redface:


... Monster capos on a fiddle! What next? ~:>

:)) LOL! :grin: Yup, who'd have thunk it, capos on fiddles... :disbelief: :mandosmiley:

Sounds like good ammo to use at the next "are capos a proper respectable musical tool" debate... :grin: :)


Tunes: English tune on old Favilla mandolin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6BIz0fKCrk), mice on 2 mandolins (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL3-hGusBj4), banjo and mando (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnRjAsfIB80), heresy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aAMD-X5Vio), unauthorized Playford variation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msEfjnRqWsc), Brazos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IEoLkhSzUE), holiday 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm8zY4URMuY), holiday 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YRsy8bVWdY), etc.

Tab + practice backing tracks: Chadwick's Bog (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eVqIc1hybQ), Calypso Carol (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbovJWcZJWg), Month of May (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABv8SSxs0Dc), Newcastle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O4zk1uduKE), Alt Greek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFHnuETiAoI), Mignonne (Antonelli) variation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOrIkEVRb1M), etc.

Quickie tutorial: Write your own music and tab (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwnO-OfJUnA).

Bertram Henze
Aug-08-2017, 10:27pm
This explains a lot, because 5 string basses are a common sight to me.

mrmando
Aug-09-2017, 12:45am
Well, the extension concept isn't new, and there are mandolin-family instruments that use it, notably Ale Moller's Nordic mandola: https://silkwoodmusic.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/the-nordic-mandola-its-not-a-banjo/

Bertram Henze
Aug-09-2017, 3:41am
the extension concept isn't new...

...it was, in the 17th century

http://theorbo.com/files/lyndatheorbo.jpg

JL277z
Aug-09-2017, 10:49pm
Well, the extension concept isn't new, and there are mandolin-family instruments that use it, notably Ale Moller's Nordic mandola: https://silkwoodmusic.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/the-nordic-mandola-its-not-a-banjo/

Cool! :mandosmiley:


...it was, in the 17th century

http://theorbo.com/files/lyndatheorbo.jpg

:disbelief: Yikes! :cool:

My first thought was, I wonder how well it stays in tune. ~:>

Probably fun to play though. :)

Thanks to Google Image Search [1], :) I think I turned up the site your pic probably came from - Lynda Sayce's theorbo.com. Some interesting reading there. For instance, at the bottom of the information for players (http://theorbo.com/theorboinformation/theorboinformation/players.html) page there's a link to "Danger Signs":


"Upper pegbox coming off:
Historical theorbos were usually constructed with a complicated joint fixing the upper pegbox to the extension, and the string tension helped to pull the joint together. Some modern theorbos, especially cheap instruments, may have a simple glued butt joint which can give way, especially if the pegbox is banged on a ceiling."

Hm, can't imagine how that instrument could ever touch the ceiling... ;) :grin:

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Footnote:
1. Anyway, about that image-search thing, on my PC with Chrome browser I right-click any image and select "Search Google for image". Or, on Android phone, I long-press the image until a menu comes up and then I tap "Search Google for this image". Thought I would mention it for those who don't know, which included me up until just a few months ago.

EDIT:
Silly me, in this case there is an easier way to locate where the image came from, since it'd been hotlinked to this forum - just right-click it and select "Copy image address", which in this case clearly shows the domain name theorbo.com, then just go to that domain and look around, yup that looks like the right website. Typical of me to find the most complicated way to do things. :whistling: :redface:

Bertram Henze
Aug-10-2017, 12:16am
Probably fun to play though. :)

Yeah, and
- fun to tune in mid-gig
- fun to restring
- fun to convince United Airlines to let you take it on board
:whistling:


...or, as Rob Paravonian once put it: there's no way to be cool when your instrument is larger than you. :grin:

JL277z
Aug-10-2017, 4:45am
Yeah, and
- fun to tune in mid-gig
- fun to restring


:grin: How about:
- fun to re-fret :disbelief: (with the tied-on gut frets, of course), but with additional complications. That same website's players page (http://theorbo.com/theorboinformation/theorboinformation/players.html) has a link to a PDF called "Changing Frets" that says:


"How to refret a theorbo.
Theorbos seem to require more frequent fretting adjustments than other kinds of lute, probably because the bass strings all pull on one side of the neck, plus the tension on the neck extension is constantly being altered as we retune our basses for different keys. ..."




- fun to convince United Airlines to let you take it on board
:whistling:

Ooh yeah transportation, that would be an issue... it wouldn't even fit in a car... huh...

Maybe there's a folding version. :grin:

Bertram Henze
Aug-10-2017, 5:03am
"... the bass strings all pull on one side of the neck, plus the tension on the neck extension is constantly being altered as we retune our basses for different keys. ..."

It all resembles the rigging of a sailing ship - you kind of have to climb the mast for making adjustments. I'm not surprised if someone tells us to scrub the deck.

colorado_al
Aug-10-2017, 10:34pm
Awesome groove! Lots of music for a duo! Love how she finger picks the instrumental part of the chorus.
Sweet solos too!
Thanks for posting!

Prelude
Aug-13-2017, 11:57pm
Thanks for posting the video. I was at that festival, and the end of Sierra's set had some fun covers. Very funky. We we're dancing to the beat of the bass and mando!

JL277z
Aug-14-2017, 5:03am
Awesome groove! Lots of music for a duo! ...


... I was at that festival, and the end of Sierra's set had some fun covers. Very funky. We we're dancing to the beat of the bass and mando!

:) Until I heard those two play, I never would have imagined that a mandolin & bass duo could create such a powerful and compelling groove/rhythm. :mandosmiley:

The other thing I notice about them in this song, is that they seem to be genuinely enjoying playing. It's nice to see the smiles and it's clear that they're paying attention to each other's playing, listening to what the other one is doing. It takes good listening skills to know what to play in order to create extraordinarily-good music, and Sierra and Ethan seem to be excellent at all of those things.

From my point of view here in the internet audience, their enjoyment of their own playing (combined of course with their obvious talent) makes the performance feel fresh and new and inspirational. It's like the free-spirited vibe you'd get from an improv or something, but refined to perfection. :mandosmiley:

Bad Monkey
Aug-25-2017, 10:41am
guess I'm the odd one out. Not a bad take on the tune,, but it didn't catch me. I don't feel any need to listen again. To each his own so they say.

Bass extensions aren't new, The guys sitting behind me in the orchestra when I was doing my undergrad back in the '80s all had 'em.

mrmando
Aug-25-2017, 3:34pm
Bass extensions aren't new, The guys sitting behind me in the orchestra when I was doing my undergrad back in the '80s all had 'em.

So did the guys sitting behind me, which was odd because they were trombone players.

Bad Monkey
Aug-25-2017, 4:30pm
So did the guys sitting behind me, which was odd because they were trombone players.

them sliphorns were over my right shoulder, behind the squeaksticks and the baboons...

willkamm
Aug-25-2017, 5:01pm
Well done. Amazing sky that night.

JL277z
Aug-26-2017, 8:25pm
them sliphorns were over my right shoulder, behind the squeaksticks and the baboons...

I'm guessing "baboons" are probably bassoons, but what are "squeaksticks"?

I don't know anything about orchestras, but I'd imagine that if I were to try to play any of those wind instruments they'd probably *all* squeak! :)) I base this on the following:

My dad had an old black-and-silver wind instrument of some sort that resided disassembled in its case. The instrument was black wood with a bunch of complicated weird-looking silver-colored metal gizmos attached to it. He didn't know what it was, :confused: he'd found it in a junkstore (that was decades before anyone started calling such places "thrift stores"). The case that the instrument fit into, if I recall correctly, was maybe 2.5 feet (76cm) long by 1.5 foot (46cm) across by maybe 5 inches (12cm) high, if that helps to narrow down what it might have been.

I took it out of the case one time, assembled it as best I could see how, and proceed to see if I could make it do something. :whistling: Hmm, blats and blurts, squeaks and squeals, :disbelief: :)) couldn't make it produce a musical note.

Don't know if there was something wrong with the instrument (likely), or if it required some special technique other than just blowing into one end of it. :whistling:

It did have a part that I later came to find out was referred to as a "reed".

Many years later, my brief experience with Uilleann pipes made my realize that reeds aren't the easiest things to maintain and deal with. :crying:

So maybe that was what was wrong with the mystery instrument that my dad had, a reed issue maybe? And/or combined with zero knowledge on my part of how to play the darned thing. :))

That was one of many weird instruments he collected. He was a total NON-reformed packrat who collected anything and everything he could get his paws on, including cars, boats, trucks, stationary engines, motorcycles, old military weapons, and hundreds of various oddball musical instruments which were scattered all throughout the house :mandosmiley: :)) beckoning people to try to play them.

(That's one easy way to have your kids learn to play music, just leave instruments scattered all over within easy reach, sooner or later a kid will get curious and pick them up, one by one, and see what kinds of sounds they will produce. If there is a sufficient variety of *functional* instruments to choose from, sooner or later the kid will discover one that s/he takes a liking to, and then the kid will be *requesting* lessons :) instead of the more-usual thing of parents coercing their kids into taking music lessons. If the kid thinks it's their own idea, rather than something that's being foisted off on them, the kid is much more likely to follow through with whatever it takes to learn proper technique etc.)


FWIW, some of my playing trying to learn new tunes: English tune on old Favilla mandolin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6BIz0fKCrk), Mouse In The Mug on 2 mandolins (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL3-hGusBj4), banjo and mando (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnRjAsfIB80), silly fun stuff at 0:24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aAMD-X5Vio), a Playford variation I made up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msEfjnRqWsc), Brazos cowboy swing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IEoLkhSzUE), holiday 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm8zY4URMuY), holiday 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YRsy8bVWdY), etc.

Tab + practice midi backing tracks: Chadwick's Bog (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eVqIc1hybQ), Calypso Carol (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbovJWcZJWg), Month of May (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABv8SSxs0Dc), Newcastle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O4zk1uduKE), Alt Greek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFHnuETiAoI), Mignonne (Antonelli) variation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOrIkEVRb1M), etc.

Quick new tutorial: Write your own music and tab in MuseScore 2.1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwnO-OfJUnA) (free, open-source), covers *all* the basics you need for songwriting and fiddle-tune writing etc, condensed down to one 20-minute video which also contains other useful tips such as how to convert standard notation to mandolin tab (at 14:00 in the video), or to easy-to-play first-position guitar tab (at 18:23 in video), etc. Video is designed to be easily viewable on any device, even small phone screens. This new up-to-date version 2.1 tutorial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwnO-OfJUnA) is an improved replacement for the old (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeQSifhSq20) version mentioned in an older thread (https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/showthread.php?120299-New-tutorial-for-older-MuseScore-(music-notation-app)).

Bertram Henze
Aug-27-2017, 1:05am
My dad had an old black-and-silver wind instrument of some sort that resided disassembled in its case. The instrument was black wood with a bunch of complicated weird-looking silver-colored metal gizmos attached to it. He didn't know what it was, :confused: he'd found it in a junkstore (that was decades before anyone started calling such places "thrift stores"). The case that the instrument fit into, if I recall correctly, was maybe 2.5 feet (76cm) long by 1.5 foot (46cm) across by maybe 5 inches (12cm) high, if that helps to narrow down what it might have been.

Clarinet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarinet) or oboe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oboe) would fit that description.


So maybe that was what was wrong with the mystery instrument that my dad had, a reed issue maybe? And/or combined with zero knowledge on my part of how to play the darned thing. :))

Reed instruments all sound like tortured cats until you're good at playing them...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL-8UhxjNts

P.S. the reed is for the woodwind player what the pick is to the mandolinist: countless makers, thicknesses and shapes, acquisition syndrome and discussion.

JL277z
Aug-27-2017, 3:52am
Clarinet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarinet) or oboe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oboe) would fit that description.

Thanks! :) :mandosmiley: I looked at the links you provided, the most likely culprit is clarinet - of those two (clarinet vs oboe), the clarinet mouthpiece shape looks vaguely familiar, whereas I don't recall seeing anything that looked like the oboe mouthpiece.


Reed instruments all sound like tortured cats until you're good at playing them...

Ah, so they're like fiddles then. :)) That was my experience with fiddles, anyway.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL-8UhxjNts

Lol! :)) That's hilarious, I like his dry sense of humor, good comedy, including the intentionally exaggerated mispronunciation (for comedic effect) of "Uilleann". Quick sample of the narrative:


"So the bagpipes are strapped to you, the good thing about strapping a musical instrument to you, is that it's hard for people to steal them off you. However, if you get kidnapped while they're strapped to you, then you will be kidnapped along with your Uillean bagpipes. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, because if you're like in a prison or an underground bunker, you can entertain yourself during your captivity by playing the bagpipes....

"I've had the bagpipes for less than 24 hours. So I got them yesterday, look, see the price tag is still on them, and I played them yesterday but I didn't know that you had to put a reed in, and so they were completely silent, didn't make any noise..."

Ha! Excellent. :)) Thanks for that link, Bertram. :)


P.S. the reed is for the woodwind player what the pick is to the mandolinist: countless makers, thicknesses and shapes, acquisition syndrome and discussion.

Fascinating stuff, I like learning about these things. Thanks again Bertram! :)

Bad Monkey
Aug-28-2017, 12:00am
I'm guessing "baboons" are probably bassoons, but what are "squeaksticks"?

squeaksticks would be the clarinets. Evil things.

JL277z
Aug-28-2017, 12:31am
squeaksticks would be the clarinets. Evil things.

:)) Ah. Thanks! :)

willkamm
Aug-28-2017, 1:44pm
Of course everyone has different preferences, that's cool. :)

The very first time I heard this song was by The Chambers Brothers, yes I know they weren't actually the first to sing it, but this is what I heard:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-MrTaXpy0w
(or direct link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-MrTaXpy0w))

... I love the harmonies and I listened to that recording quite a bit, *but* I had to turn my treble control *all* the way down to try to rid the recording of the too-prominent snare drum :crying: (or whatever it is that makes that shrill high-pitched off-beat percussive noise that sounds like breaking glass on the 3-beat of each measure). I don't understand why the studio people decided to turn that up so high. That was actually what prompted me, years ago, to seek out alternative and newer versions of this song.

Unfortunately my high-frequency hearing has always been pretty keen, and it's the higher frequencies that are always the first to become irritating to me. I'm one of those people who can often hear the high-pitched mosquito-like whine from various cheap power-supply transformers (wall-brick chargers for various battery-powered things such as cell phones etc), 2 out of 3 of our house's dimmer switches, trad lightbulbs right before they burn out, etc, although I've managed to mentally "tune that out" to where it doesn't bother me. And no, I'm not young, far from it. :))

I would love to hear a proper remixed version of that original Chambers Brothers recording where they dialed-down the snare-drum percussion to a more tolerable level. Car stereo or home stereo tone controls can only do so much.

As to the Chamber Bros recorded mix, it might just be me, though. Never heard anyone else complain about it, although I haven't went around asking people ;) about it either, so who knows.

I think a lot of what seems 'good', is pretty heavily dependent on which frequencies a particular listener's ears can hear.

In this household, I'm the high-frequency hearer who dislikes the shrill ear-piercing springtime bird sounds, whereas my wonderful significant other can't hear those at *all* (he has significant high-frequency hearing loss from years of workplace noise exposure)... but *his* pet-peeve is the low-pitched cooing sound of the very mellow doves in the trees out back (I can barely hear that at all, certainly doesn't bother me). He can also hear the distant low-pitched rumble of the freight train miles away, long before I can hear it, however I can hear the distant shrill high-pitched train whistle before he can.

I would think it would be tough trying to make decisions as to how to mix songs, when there are so many variables as to people's ears, what types of audio gear they're using (big headphones, car speakers, little bitty earbuds etc).

You know what would be cool, although I suppose not practical due to worries about theft of music, would be if each instrument's track was separately controllable by the consumer. Each listener could create their own custom mix. They could selectively turn up/down/off instruments and vocals to suit themselves. I've tried to do similar with equalizers but doesn't really work, maybe I'm doing it wrong or not using the right equipment (cheap stuff), dunno.

Yeah I know, I'm off-topic, but hey (FWIW) :whistling: I'm the OP :) and personally I like off-topic tangents once in a while, that's how I learn new stuff. :)

A number of us heard it for the first time, when the Chambers Brothers did it.
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Nick Royal
Aug-28-2017, 6:42pm
One of my favorite versions of People Get Ready is by the late Eva Cassidy.

willkamm
Aug-28-2017, 8:24pm
One of my favorite versions of People Get Ready is by the late Eva Cassidy.

My gosh. She did some beautiful stuff. Two distinctly different versions of "Wayfaring Stranger." One a folk like version, with a verse I'd never heard. Another, haunting, upbeat, jazz version. She was something. My wife adores her stuff.

JL277z
Aug-28-2017, 8:25pm
One of my favorite versions of People Get Ready is by the late Eva Cassidy.



My gosh. She did some beautiful stuff. ...

Yes. :mandosmiley: Here's some footage of Eva performing People Get Ready. According to the YouTube page, this was at a jazz club on the east coast (U.S.) in 1996, pretty nice: :mandosmiley:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzLd2MDAHK8
(or direct link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzLd2MDAHK8))

drbluegrass
Sep-10-2017, 8:37pm
I played this song in my church several months ago. Beautiful Curtis Mayfield song.

Patrick Hull
Sep-14-2017, 10:24am
I must admit that I couldn't avert my eyes from the bass player - apparently he has some gadgets on his instrument I haven't seen before on a bass, such as drop tuners.

You say there's Sierra Hull in that video? :grin:

Bertram,

I have a problem averting my eyes but for a different reason. You say there's a bass player in that video? I heard them play this a couple of years ago in Asheville, NC, and loved it. I also noticed what appeared to me to be the "Bass capo," and talked to Ethan about it.

My recollections of hearing this song go back to my youth and parties where it would be played--I assume the Impressions version--and it evokes great memories of warm summer breezes and lovely young ladies. So I still like what to me is the original version but, and I have to say I like the Eva C version a little better than this one. But all in all I still think Sierra is the best!

Pat Hull

David Leone
Sep-15-2017, 10:46am
I must admit that I couldn't avert my eyes from the bass player - apparently he has some gadgets on his instrument I haven't seen before on a bass, such as drop tuners.

You say there's Sierra Hull in that video? :grin:

That is a common extension, used almost universally by symphony bassists and sometimes jazz players will have one. I think it is less commonly used in bluegrass or other styles, but it allows the player to get down to low C.

jesserules
Sep-15-2017, 1:44pm
That is a common extension, ... it allows the player to get down to low C.


And to play Flint Hill Special?