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I just notice the "abbreviated" scrol on this Lebeda F5 Jazz. I kinda like it, in a way. What's the concensus?
and here's a shot of the back. (These are borrowed from The Acoustic Music Company www.theacousticmusicco.co.uk)
jmkatcher
Jun-09-2005, 1:50pm
Not my taste because it makes the instrument look unbalanced. Compare it with the Andersen F scroll, which is very different, but still looks proportionate.
Tough to strap that baby.
Don't like F styles with A-stylish (symetric or almost symetric) headstocks.
Don't like A styles with F-stylish (very asymetric) headstocks.
Just don't work for me. The body and the headstock gotta kinda match.
Oh yeah, don't much care for un-open scrolls either.
Course I can like or not like anything I want when I don't have any $$$ or a new mando anyway.
glauber
Jun-09-2005, 2:10pm
The real question is, will it hold a strap? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
mandopete
Jun-09-2005, 5:35pm
Where's MandoJeremy when we need him?
Doug Edwards
Jun-09-2005, 5:43pm
Looks nice. Go with what you think. How it sounds and plays is what really counts. A piece of raw hide around the scroll will hold the strap, Ricky Skaggs has done it that way.
Big Joe
Jun-09-2005, 6:24pm
Aesthetically I like it for several reasons. One, it does look cool. Second, it does not look like a Gibson. Three, I just do http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif .
grandmainger
Jun-09-2005, 6:28pm
http://www.grandmainger.com/avatars/smileys/scared.gif I don't like it too much.
Jim Hilburn
Jun-09-2005, 6:33pm
I thought the whole idea of making a scroll was to make it look like a Gibson. A 1910-24 Gibson,that is.
Professor PT
Jun-09-2005, 6:52pm
I agree; it looks half-done. I say do it the whole way or not at all. You could do a variation, like Monteleone, and it would look better. That headstock would look nice on a two-pointer.
CrippleCreek
Jun-09-2005, 7:33pm
Just doing a once over of it, everything looks kinda cheap or not well done. Except the finish is nice!
timothy.c.hicks
Jun-09-2005, 8:16pm
There you have it - there is no concensus :-)
JEStanek
Jun-09-2005, 8:17pm
My feelin is no matter how long you played it, it wouldn't open up. #Ba-dum-dum. #I kinda like the non traditional peg-heads I've seen on some F styles (esp. the Bulldog one posted awhile back). #I don't like the closed scroll much. #Without the cutout it looks too heavy. The Heiden mandos have bigger scrolls but still look finished. I kinda dig the pulled out hook shape on the Holst's and Dearstones. #I will say it looks unique and distinct. #
If it plays well and you don't like looking like everyone else I say that's a great mando to go with.
Jamie
luckylarue
Jun-09-2005, 8:19pm
I just sold my scroll for a Snake...anyone else bucking the trend? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Le7beda
Jun-09-2005, 9:17pm
I prefer the look of Lebeda's two point J-5's over their Jazz 5's. #I agree with the Prof -- the Monteleone scroll does appear to be a more complete design. # I think the headstock looks great! #Perhaps if Gibson produced an "F-0" with a closed scroll back in '23 we'd all love it.
Me? #I wimped out & got an F-5 Standard... #(!)
Cheers, Todd
Greg H.
Jun-09-2005, 10:19pm
I'm afraid the closed scroll reminds me too much of the lumpy A models (A12??, an A model with a tumor) that Gibson produced in the 60's. If it's going to have a different scroll/cutaway I like it better to be more open rather than less (e.g. Monteleone's, or completely different,like the Rigel I'm about to win next week http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )
mandroid
Jun-09-2005, 11:24pm
The Lebeda Jazzica, I got a couple years back [2nd hand] is essentially the Monte style headstock and an F5 body, his regular scroll job, tort binding , singlemalt toner in the finish. so the variations continue.
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fredfrank
Jun-10-2005, 7:47am
Maybe you could get Bill Bussman to do a scrollectomy!
Gibsonman
Jun-10-2005, 8:20am
No No No
bsimmers
Jun-10-2005, 8:50am
How's it sound? How's it play?
mandoJeremy
Jun-10-2005, 9:14am
I'm here Pete. #My official ruling is that I don't really care much for it. #It does look too much like the old Gibson lumpy mandos. At least I didn't say that it looked weird. I guess it is okay if you are in to it but I prefer the look of the Andersen that was referenced earlier.
PaulD
Jun-10-2005, 12:15pm
I'm kinda with JEStanek... the closed scroll looks heavy. My first impression was that it would be okay if it were a little smaller. It definately doesn't look "cheap" to me; nice crisp crest on the scroll, nice binding, "point protector" on the bottom point. It just looks a little unbalanced to me.
luckylarue
Jun-10-2005, 3:24pm
Dr. Dave Cohen's C# model is a great looking partial scroll, imo. Sound-wise, competes w/ any f-model I've played - except one Gilchrist at the Joe Val Fest.
If we're discussing scroll alternates; I'm quite enamored with the Gallatin. Would be nice to see a Gallatin fully adorned with body binding.
mandopete
Jun-10-2005, 3:50pm
Allrighty, I'm gonna cast my vote for "I think it's kinda ugly".
sunburst
Jun-11-2005, 10:52pm
it does not look like a Gibson.
Well, not exactly.