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can any help out with the melody to friend of the devil and cumberland blues
or any other dead tunes.
i have the chords, but i am terrible at trying to figure out the melody. thanks for your help
Will you spring a little $ for some books? All the tunes from American Beauty and Workingman's Dead are published in one book; that will have the two you are looking for. There's another one with all the Wake of the Flood and Blue for Allah tunes. There's also an anthology with a cross section of studio and live tunes.
csstanley
Jun-03-2005, 7:43am
'I lit out from Reno, I was trailed by twenty hounds.
Didn't get to sleep last night till the morning came around.'
Can you hear me singing? There's the tune. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Jim M.
Jun-03-2005, 10:11am
Check out http://www.rukind.com/
Lots of chord charts and tabs for GD
dan@kins
Jun-03-2005, 10:14am
Hey edawg the licks for Friend are the G major scale, a little walk up and then descending.
Hope that helps.
If you need a chord progression let me know, I'll type it out.
D.A.
edawg; If you have the CD/LP/Tape... sit down and work through the tunes one section at a time. It's a good way to learn the tune and a great way to familiarize yourself with your instrument.
kvk; Is the American Beauty/Workingman's book in print again? I remember seeing it 20+ years ago and tried to find it about 5 years ago, but it looked like it was unavailable or out or print. I ended up with the 2nd Anthology which filled in what wasn't in the 1st Anthology.
pd
thistle3585
Jun-03-2005, 1:39pm
I have a couple versions of FOD. I also have Ripple, Uncle John's Band and one other I can't remember offhand. I'd post them, but I don't know what the copyright issues would be. They're just the basic melody line. You would need to embellish them.
I learned Grisman's mando runs from the American Beauty version of Ripple for a friend's wedding years ago. It became one of my favorite tunes to sing and play on guitar or mando. It also became one of my "lullabyes" when my kids were babies. It's worth listening to what Grisman did on Friend Of The Devil too, and Uncle John's Band is fun to mando-noodle on as well.
pd
csstanley
Jun-03-2005, 8:01pm
FOD is a part of the Bluegrass Fakebook. As far as the others, I have no idea.
Zeppelinman
Jun-04-2005, 2:46am
There was a band, led by Jerry Garcia from the Grateful Dead, called "Old and in the Way." This was an excellent bluegrass band with thick mandolin, fiddle, and banjo parts in all their songs. Jerry Garcia played the mando and banjo, quite well I might add. If you like bluegrass, you should check it out.
http://www.amazon.com/exec....8262252 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/sim-explorer/explore-items/-/B000002VKC/0/101/1/none/purchase/ref%3Dpd%5Fsxp%5Fr0/103-2459744-8262252)
FOD is a part of the Bluegrass Fakebook. As far as the others, I have no idea.
Yeah, that just popped into my head too. "Bluegrass Fakebook" by Bert Casey. It's well worth having around if you can read enough to understand a simple melody in notation. It's got lead line, chords, and lyrics to 150 songs. Some traditional standards but also modern copyrighted stuff that you won't find in public domain. I know FotD is on it as is Panama Red and others. You might recognize the traditional tunes "Dark Hollow" and "Rain and Snow" although R&S is the old-time version in Dm, not the R&R GD -style version.
csstanley
Jun-05-2005, 7:43am
There was a band, led by Jerry Garcia from the Grateful Dead, called "Old and in the Way." This was an excellent bluegrass band with thick mandolin, fiddle, and banjo parts in all their songs. Jerry Garcia played the mando and banjo, quite well I might add. If you like bluegrass, you should check it out.
http://www.amazon.com/exec....8262252 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/sim-explorer/explore-items/-/B000002VKC/0/101/1/none/purchase/ref%3Dpd%5Fsxp%5Fr0/103-2459744-8262252)
That was Jerry, David Dawg Grishman, John Kahn and Vassar Clements. And they were AWESOME. They did a bunch of cover tunes with a bluegrass spin.
If ya liked the Dead, you'd like these guys together.
From what I've learned, Jerry's roots were in folk and Old Time music.
Billiam
Jun-05-2005, 9:45am
That was Jerry, David Dawg Grishman, John Kahn and Vassar Clements. #
And Peter Rowan on guitar and vocals. I think the Dawg sang one tune (Old and in the Way, from which the band took its name). I don't think I've ever heard him sing other than that track!
The engineer was Owsley Stanley (http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/stanley_owsley/stanley_owsley.shtml), if that name rings any bells with those of you that claim to remember the sixties...
Grisman has sung baritone in many trios over the course of his bluegrass career. He also sang lead on "I'm My Own Grandpa" off the Home is Where the Heart Is record and "Till The End of the World Rolls Around" off the Here Today record, in addition to the tune you cite above.
csstanley
Jun-05-2005, 2:44pm
The engineer was Owsley Stanley (http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/stanley_owsley/stanley_owsley.shtml), if that name rings any bells with those of you that claim to remember the sixties...
So he's the one I blame. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif And to boot, he may be kin to me.
Or would that be the one's that played a little layer and didn't know what they were doing?
He found the right people in Jerry and Bob to help him out.
Of course, you can't have a Dead Thread without a drug talk.
From what I've learned, Jerry's roots were in folk and Old Time music.
If you go over to www.furthurnet.org (http://www.furthurnet.org), There's some ancient JG shows from the very early sixties. (there's also a lot of OaitW) Here's some set lists to give you an idea--
Wildwood Boys
02/23/63
Top of The Tangent Palo Alto, CA
audience master reel->reel->FM->cassette->DAT->CD
Jarry Garcia - guitar, banjo, vocals
David Nelson - guitar
Robert Hunter - bass, guitar
Norm Van Mastricht - bass, guitar, dobro
1. Introductions [0:47]
2. Rollin' In My Sweet Babys Arms [4:05]
3. Jerry's Breakdown [2:25]
4. Standing In The Need Of Prayer [3:06]
5. Muleskinner Blues [3:50]
6. Guitar Instrumental [3:25]
7. Pike County Breakdown [2:53]
8. Come All Ye Fair And Tender Maidens [4:13]
9. We Shall Not Be Moved [3:17]
DAT->CD and wav.->.shn conversions by Scott Mogol <smogol@intr.net>
upped by Gary King and his mighty DSL http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
June 11, 1962
Sleepy Valley Hogstompers
Jewish Community Center
San Carlos, CA
Jerry Garcia - Guitar and Banjo
Marshall Leicester - Banjo and Guitar
Dick Arnold - Fiddle
This performance took place at the 'new' Boar's Head Coffeehouse; relocated in the San Carlos Jewish Community Center.
All will fit on one CD
Set I
1. Chuck a Little Hill
2. Billy Grimes
3. Cannonball Blues
4. Devilish Mary
5. Buck Dancer's Choice
6. Little Birdie
7. Sally Goodun
8. Hold the Woodpile Down
Set II
9. Crow Black Children
10. Johnson Boys
11. Shady Grove
12. Uncle Joe
13. Sweet Sunny South
14. Hungry Hash House
15. Man of Constant Sorrow
16. Yonder He Goes
17. Three Went A-Hunting
ul2GDLmatty23
csstanley
Jun-06-2005, 2:44pm
Thanks. Those are some good stuffins. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
dperry
Jul-17-2005, 12:30am
I know that Grisman sings in "Jenny Jenkins" and "'Cept Old Bill" or whatever the name of that song is with Sam Bush on the Hold on we're strumming cd.
berkeleymando
Jul-22-2005, 10:24am
There's a new "Dick's Picks" out (#35) with material from summer 1971. There's a funny story about how Keith G. was given a bunch of master soundboard tapes in 1971 by Garcia who said "learn our music". Then the family apparently came across these same (previously considered lost) tapes spring 2005 when cleaning out his houseboat in Alameda, California.
Anyone else see any Phil Lesh and Friends perormances this year?
phil hasn't really done the east coast for a spell.
Tom C
Jul-22-2005, 10:38am
"Pickin' On The Dead" is a good CD. I stole part of my break from that version.
GnomeGrown
Jul-23-2005, 12:24pm
phil is doing an east coast run this fall, I believe.....
He IS playing Saint Louis in November.....straight from the horse's mouth
"the lost tapes"
Jerry gave Keith a few sounboard shows (ONLY COPIES!) to learn the material...he listened to them maybe once and they were forgotten about..skip ahead, his son finds them and we have a new treasure trove of lost dead goodies
and if anyone wants to send me any tabs, chords, or any dead related mando stuff...PLEASE DO!!!!
GnomeGrown
Jul-25-2005, 1:16pm
rambled through mandozine's contents....
found a tabledit file for Uncle John's band.....
If anyone is interested, check it out, blast to play, at least for a head like me
berkeleymando
Jul-25-2005, 10:47pm
rambled through mandozine's contents....
found a tabledit file for Uncle John's band.....
If anyone is interested, check it out, blast to play, at least for a head like me
That's a cool Tabledit file. Indeed the Uncle John's Band of the Grateful Dead. I think the song is an original Garcia/Robert Hunter tune, but it is listed as "traditional". Which is correct?
csstanley
Jul-26-2005, 6:59am
rambled through mandozine's contents....
found a tabledit file for Uncle John's band.....
If anyone is interested, check it out, blast to play, at least for a head like me
That's a cool Tabledit file. Indeed the Uncle John's Band of the Grateful Dead. I think the song is an original Garcia/Robert Hunter tune, but it is listed as "traditional". Which is correct?
One that I found said that Hunter wrote it and Garcia did the music score.
Who knows?
garyblanchard
Jul-26-2005, 9:28am
"Uncle John's Band" is a Garcia/Hunter tune. I think that it says a lot that people have trouble sometimes distinguishing between Dead originals and their covers of traditional tunes. I had someone at a gig swear to me that "I Know You Rider" was a Garcia/Hunter tune. It's all good stuff!
RI-Grass
Jul-26-2005, 6:49pm
I "rambled" through Mandozine's tabledit files and couldn't find Uncle John's band ... what's it listed under? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Sal
berkeleymando
Jul-27-2005, 10:33pm
I "rambled" through Mandozine's tabledit files and couldn't find Uncle John's band ... what's it listed under? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Sal
Go to the main Mandozine.com page >> Tabledit files >> type "Uncles John's Band" in the search field and it comes up!