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pheffernan
Nov-08-2014, 10:27am
I am curious if someone could explain the effect of an elevated fingerboard on a mandolin with an oval hole. This curiosity was prompted by the Brentrup Model 20 currently (and sadly) on hold in the classifieds: http://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/80958. The description therein led me to a 1935 Gibson A0 that Charles Johnson has posted for sale: http://www.vintagemandolin.com/35gibsona4_fon785.html. How would the elevated fingerboard combined with a 12th fret body join influence tone? I'd appreciate any insight into this seemingly uncommon construction.

Thanks,
Patrick

OldSausage
Nov-08-2014, 11:23am
I think the idea is simply that it leaves more area of the top free to resonate, same as on an F5. The 12th fret body join implies a shorter scale length, and therefore lower string tension.

mandobassman
Nov-08-2014, 12:00pm
I think the idea is simply that it leaves more area of the top free to resonate, same as on an F5. The 12th fret body join implies a shorter scale length, and therefore lower string tension.

The string length remains the same for a 12th fret neck joint or 15th. It just changes the bridge position

Pete Summers
Nov-08-2014, 12:15pm
How does one go about deleting a post. I changed my mind, I don't want a post here but I am told by the little pop up box I need to have two characters or I can't save the edited post. I do have two characters, good or bad, depending on how much I've had to drink, but I fail to see the relevance of that to posts on the Cafe.:(

pheffernan
Nov-08-2014, 2:02pm
I think the idea is simply that it leaves more area of the top free to resonate, same as on an F5.

I would speculate the same, yet with the 12th fret body join, these instruments shouldn't produce the modern "hybrid" sound due to the shifted bridge. So why aren't these 30's Gibsons the holy grails of oval holes? And why wasn't I quicker to pounce on that Brentrup? :(

Grommet
Nov-08-2014, 3:20pm
Knew the Model 20 would go uber quick at that price. Unlike the Gibson you mentioned, it looked to me as though the Brentrup mandolin had a neck that joined a bit north of the 12th fret. I would love to hear the sound of it!

Scott

pheffernan
Nov-08-2014, 4:41pm
Unlike the Gibson you mentioned, it looked to me as though the Brentrup mandolin had a neck that joined a bit north of the 12th fret.

My eyes see the same thing, although it is described as a 12th fret join: http://brentrupmandolinregistry.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/50337-i-model-20-prototype/