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11-03-2008, 01:07 PM
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wood butcher
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Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
Hey all....
Well, apparently there's quite the fan club for this microphone in the world of Gypsy Jazz Guitar, with many big names using the Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone for not only stage use, but for studio applications as well... Anyone here have any experience with this mic for mando use? Your thoughts? Hell, at around 100 bucks, I guess I should just grab one to see how it works. But I'd like to know if any of you have used one.... Thanks in advance... |
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11-03-2008, 07:16 PM
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I used to be sliabhstv.
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
No experience of it, but it looks good on paper. :-)
How have you seen it attached to the gypsy jazz guitars? Clipped to an f-hole or a pickguard? Thanks, stv
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11-03-2008, 10:34 PM
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wood butcher
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Orcas Island, Washington
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
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They just clip it into the hole, either on the outside or inside... You can see it in action here... Apparently, there are piles of Pro 70s in use at any given Gypsy Jazz fest, and I'm thinking they might be onto something....? I'll grab one here pretty soon and get back to ya..... |
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11-04-2008, 02:02 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mojavie Desert
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
I haven't tried it on mando, but I've had one on my banjo for about 8 years and use one on my Gitane.
I really like it, although it does work better inside the instrument to avoid feedback problems. |
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11-04-2008, 03:38 PM
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
I have used this mike for about 15 years. It has an amazing ability to sound warm and acoustic. My wife recorded a CD with it on her violin. The sound engineer said it was the best sounding violin he has ever heard.
Part of the deal, I think is that it can be placed very close to the instrument (or inside). I have recorded some guitar stuff with very expensive mikes and they seem to be overly sensitive and prone to finger slides and pick noise. They have a wireless version worth considering. |
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11-05-2008, 10:44 AM
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wood butcher
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
Thanks folks...
I think I'll be joining the Pro 70 club and get back to you with how it works out for me.... |
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11-05-2008, 11:53 AM
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Handle Of Science
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm going to try it out too. The price seems right and I have been getting frustrated with my pickup.
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11-05-2008, 12:12 PM
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wood butcher
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Orcas Island, Washington
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
Ya know, I've got a bunch of old dynamic lavalier mics kicking around that I've never even considered trying on a mando....
An Altec, and a RCA BK6A... Have to drag those out and have a listen..... 
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11-05-2008, 12:43 PM
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Location: Nashville, TN
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
I have one of these, except it is the Pro 7a that was virtually identical to the Pro 70 but only cost about $50.
I have used it on a flattop guitar and a Crate acoustic amp, and it sounded very nice. In certain settings it would be just the thing. I did notice one or two small things though. To attach it to the soundhole using the guitar adaptor, you kind of need to slide the clip onto the soundboard from inside of the soundhole, holding it parallel to the top - this is because of the shape and length of the clip, which is like a money clip with felt pads. The clip held the top snugly, but not tight - it was possible for the angle of the mic to be shifted bya fairly light pull on the cable, for example if you turned around or to the side, or set your instrument down. You need to stay within about 6 feet of the integrated power supply, so I would think it's best to use while sitting (a la a Gypsy guitarist) with the power box near your feet or chair. Adjusting the mic position by loosening/tightening the sliding mechanisn while the clip was attached to the instrument didn't work so well; it's best to get it adjusted, tighten it real good, then put it on and leave it alone. It's also very sensitive, so toucing it or try to adjust it on the instrument obviously makes a lot of noise if you are plugged in. I haven't tried in with an f-hole mandolin, and although I am sure others have, my feeling is that depending on the size of the f-hole and arching of the top, etc, the soundhole clip may not just slide on and off as easily as you imagine. It might work better clipped to a pickguard, or even underneath an elevated pickguard.
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11-05-2008, 01:02 PM
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
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Granted this is guitars, not mandos, but... scroll to the bottom and take a listen to the $10 Radio shack lapel mic compared to a $1000 Neumann. I'm just saying....  http://www.dougyoungguitar.com/pickuptest.htm I went out and bought the last two of these our local Radio Shacks had after hearing this. It was a while ago, though. Also has examples of both the McIntyre Feather and Schertler Dyn G, discussed here often in amplification threads. Doug
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11-06-2008, 12:37 PM
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Old Wave Envy Sufferer
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
Been using it about 5 years now....best sound I ever had.
  
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11-06-2008, 01:59 PM
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
How/where do you have it mounted, PickinPete?
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11-07-2008, 01:06 AM
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
I have used the 70, 7a, and the 831b, which I like the best. I think the supplied, unmodified clips are ####. I made a thing looks like this:
[IMG]http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t195/musicofanatic/mmic4.jpg [/IMG]  The edge clamp is for a violin chin rest. I use the plastic snap ring that comes with the supplied mic mount, and put it at the end of a wire. to position over f-hole.
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11-07-2008, 01:08 AM
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
The edge clamp:
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11-07-2008, 11:41 AM
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I used to be sliabhstv.
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
Bruce, I really like the idea of a dynamic version of this setup. The RCA is truly intriguing!
Doug Chunkybutfunky, isn't the Radio Shack mic an omni? Pickin Pete, did you mount the mic behind the bridge to keep hand/pick noise out of it, or...? musicofanatic, that's a really cool mounting system, well done!! Great stuff! Thanks to all!! stv
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11-07-2008, 12:00 PM
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wood butcher
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
"Doug Chunkybutfunky, isn't the Radio Shack mic an omni?"
Yeah, and which model RS is it?? I see a few available, some costing as little as 10 bucks... "Bruce, I really like the idea of a dynamic version of this setup." Yeah, me too... I'll bet you can get an Altec or even an RCA for not a lot of coin. The RCA I have is not small (like the Pro 70), but I think I can mount it OK... Back with ya soon.... |
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11-10-2008, 03:35 PM
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
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07-20-2009, 03:46 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
I've heard of people bending the clip so it fits onto the f-hole... anyone had any luck with this?
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07-20-2009, 08:56 PM
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
I got one and used it a few times. I can't remember why I stopped using it but it wasn't because it didn't work good. I just don't like wires and whatnot in the way on my mandolin when I play.
It comes with two clips one a alligator type clip to clip to a tie or something and another adjustable clip with felt pads that I assume you slide it on the edge of a sound hole. With F holes it's a little harder to get in there I remember being a little worried I would chip the finish on the edge of the F hole. If I was going to use one a lot on a F holed mandolin I would make up some sort of clamp to out of a violin chin clamp or something. It's been sitting in my desk for a few years now I should put it in the classifieds. It would work very well too if somehow it could be mounted internally and wired to an end pin jack. I think it is a little more prone to feed back than a piezo but it sounds a lot better. I think it would work very well too if somehow it could be mounted internally and wired to an end pin jack. It is a little more prone to feed back than a piezo but it sounds a lot better. |
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07-21-2009, 11:02 AM
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Re: Audio Technica Pro 70 Microphone....?
Spruce
Your post made me go and try the lavaliere mic someone gave my awhile back and I've never used. Pretty amazing result on the positive side. It's a Samson QE , made for exercise and fitness, bi-directional condenser, and this set was rigged for wireless. (It's counterpart is a QV, hyper-cartioid, and not as water resistant). So what I have is not a match made in heaven, but it really might work pretty well. Looking as Samson products, which I never have before, it seems they also have an AT, and a Crown lavaliere. Jonathan |
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