Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 - Page 3

danb · 11-05-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by John Rosett

Oh yeah, the serial number is 79270.
Sorry about the background. Maybe when I have more time I'll put a blue velvet blanket behind it.
Did I mention that is one sweet sounding mandolin?

Looks pretty good condition. The case is interesting, that's a later red-line F5 case! There is some finish wear as you note and a couple other issues, but it's on the north end of the condition scale still. My guess would be ~$8500 range for this one. Others may think higher

Darryl Wolfe · 11-05-2009, 11:02 AM

I think the case is a Golden Gate

mrmando · 11-05-2009, 12:32 PM

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I think a few G's more than that.

Yeah, could be, depending on whether we want the Elderly price or the Gruhn price!

If Dan says $8500, and Gail agrees, go with that! They know more than I do.

John Rosett · 11-06-2009, 11:11 AM

The case is a Saga, and it's made for a longer necked instrument. Also, I noticed a small crack (about 3/4' on the back. I'm going to take it to my luthier for a thorough going over before I put it up for sale.

Joey McKenzie · 11-06-2009, 11:18 AM

Hi,

I am new to Mandolin Cafe - this is my first post so I hope I don't mess up!

I just acquired a 1924 F-4 (s# 75024) from the son of its original owner. The original owner played it in a mandolin orchestra in Chicago. It is in wonderful condition and sounds great despite its not being played since the 50's. The owner told me that it was a '25 and it wasn't until later that I checked the s# and found that it is in fact an early '24. This mandolin does not have a virzi.

I will try to post a few photos of the Mandolin (even though it will be a miracle if this post makes it through!).

Joey McKenzie
quebesistersband.com

Darryl Wolfe · 11-06-2009, 11:34 AM

Saga makes the Golden Gate

Bill Halsey · 11-06-2009, 11:18 PM

Gail, Hans -- those are heartbreakers... I love F-4s, thanks for posting them!
~B~

Rob Gerety · 11-06-2009, 11:26 PM

Joey, are you the fellow that plays that lovely big Gibson archtop guitar backing up the Quebe sisters that I have seen on you tube? I love that style of guitar playing and I really want to learn how to do that. It reminds me a lot of western swing which I have dabbled in a bit. I play guitar in my other life - mando around here. Love to see that F4 of yours. I just acquired a 1916 A4 in pretty good shape and I'm loving it.

Rob Gerety · 11-06-2009, 11:34 PM

Deleted - sorry

Joey McKenzie · 11-07-2009, 10:37 AM

That looks like a really nice A-4 Rob. I have a 1920 A-4 that I like a lot, but I wish it had Handel tuners like yours.

I am fairly computer challenged but I will try to get a few photos of my '24 F-4 posted this weekend. I would love to get some feedback from the Cafe folks.

Yes Rob, that is me playing guitar with The Quebe Sisters Band. Until the QSB, I had never played guitar in a band so it has been a blast. I used to play mandolin when I was a young whipper snapper and now I'm trying to get back into the swing of things.

Joey

John Rosett · 11-07-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey McKenzie

Yes Rob, that is me playing guitar with The Quebe Sisters Band. Until the QSB, I had never played guitar in a band so it has been a blast. I used to play mandolin when I was a young whipper snapper and now I'm trying to get back into the swing of things.
Joey

You are a modest man, Joey.

Rob Gerety · 11-07-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by John Rosett

You are a modest man, Joey.

Joey, I hope that family realizes how lucky they are to have you backing them up. I know good back up work when I hear it and you are among the best. Great timing and very tasteful and supportive chord selection.

I would love to persuade you to give me some help getting those chord shapes you use under my fingers and learning some of those progressions.

The other guy I have been fascinated with that plays a lot like you is Royce Franklin. I've got to learn how to do that before I'm six feet under.

Pete Martin · 11-09-2009, 08:09 AM

Nice to have you around Joey and good to hear you are getting back to playing the mando again.

My '23 F4 is here:
http://www.mandolinarchive.com/perl/show_mando.pl?3268

Joey McKenzie · 11-09-2009, 11:32 PM

Thanks Rob and John for the kind words, and good to see you at the Cafe Pete!

I may be doing some instructional DVD's in the next year. If it happens, one of the DVD's would certainly be for swing &/or Texas style rhythm guitar.

Royce Franklin is a good friend of mine and a big inspiration to me on guitar as well, Rob. If you ever get to the Ft. Worth area, come by and we'll play a few tunes!

May be a few more day before I can get photos of my F-4 posted as we are going to be in South Texas for the next few days.

Joey
quebesistersband.com

Joey McKenzie · 11-09-2009, 11:39 PM

Pete,

I just checked out your '23 F-4 - looks like a mighty nice one!

Joey
quebesistersband.com

Rob Gerety · 11-10-2009, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey McKenzie

I may be doing some instructional DVD's in the next year. If it happens, one of the DVD's would certainly be for swing &/or Texas style rhythm guitar.

Put me down for an advance copy!

mrmando · 11-12-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by danb

Mandolas are tricky. They are rare, but also in lower demand. Still, I haven't seen a truss rod H4 for sale in years, and I'm sure folks out there would love to have one.. I'd guess ~$11,000 if the condition was really good

Well, a truss rod H4 just went in the Classifieds for $6.5K at a pawnshop in the Santa Cruz area ... sold in <24 hrs. Not to me, unfortunately.

Goodin · 11-12-2009, 03:27 PM

In a pawn shop!? Might be hot.

Gail Hester · 11-12-2009, 03:46 PM

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In a pawn shop!? Might be hot.

No, no, no. More of an antique store and it was on consignment, totally above board but at about half of the real value.

mrmando · 11-12-2009, 04:01 PM

Did you get it, Gail? I sent e-mail and left a phone message but I guess someone else beat me to the punch.

Sorry if I described the shop incorrectly.

Gail Hester · 11-12-2009, 04:11 PM

I saw it and tried to pass the info to someone who I knew was looking for one but they had already seen it and bought it. He happened to be looking at the classifieds when it pooped up and he called imediately. Sometimes you have to be real fast.

I have seen additional pictures of the mandola and the store, nice H4. Not sure what year yet but it looks to be 24 or 25. I'm sure the owner will post after he gets it in hand.

squirrelabama · 11-15-2009, 06:43 PM

It is a '25. SN# 81656. This one has been played alot, and based on the tone it creates, I can understand why!

I'll need to get some photos to Dan B for the archive.

theBlood · 11-15-2009, 11:25 PM

Here's my F4, Ser. #68472

woodwizard · 11-16-2009, 12:27 AM

That's a nice looking one Blood. Love those "Cherry Burst" Gibson oval hole F4's & A4's!

Goodin · 11-16-2009, 07:44 AM

That's a nice one squirrelabama! Looks like you got a sweet deal too. I looked into it but it was too late.

11-05-2009, 11:02 AM	#52
Darryl Wolfe Formerly F5JOURNL Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: aiken, sc Posts: 4,734	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 I think the case is a Golden Gate __________________ Darryl G. Wolfe, The F5 Journal www.f5journal.com

11-06-2009, 11:11 AM	#54
John Rosett Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Missoula, MT Posts: 1,285	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 The case is a Saga, and it's made for a longer necked instrument. Also, I noticed a small crack (about 3/4' on the back. I'm going to take it to my luthier for a thorough going over before I put it up for sale. __________________ "it's not in bad taste, if it's funny" - john waters

11-06-2009, 11:18 AM	#55
Joey McKenzie Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 Hi, I am new to Mandolin Cafe - this is my first post so I hope I don't mess up! I just acquired a 1924 F-4 (s# 75024) from the son of its original owner. The original owner played it in a mandolin orchestra in Chicago. It is in wonderful condition and sounds great despite its not being played since the 50's. The owner told me that it was a '25 and it wasn't until later that I checked the s# and found that it is in fact an early '24. This mandolin does not have a virzi. I will try to post a few photos of the Mandolin (even though it will be a miracle if this post makes it through!). Joey McKenzie quebesistersband.com

11-06-2009, 11:34 AM	#56
Darryl Wolfe Formerly F5JOURNL Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: aiken, sc Posts: 4,734	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 Saga makes the Golden Gate __________________ Darryl G. Wolfe, The F5 Journal www.f5journal.com

11-06-2009, 11:18 PM	#57
Bill Halsey Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 451	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 Gail, Hans -- those are heartbreakers... I love F-4s, thanks for posting them! ~B~ __________________ ~Bill~

11-06-2009, 11:26 PM	#58
Rob Gerety Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vermont - Upper Valley Posts: 820	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 Joey, are you the fellow that plays that lovely big Gibson archtop guitar backing up the Quebe sisters that I have seen on you tube? I love that style of guitar playing and I really want to learn how to do that. It reminds me a lot of western swing which I have dabbled in a bit. I play guitar in my other life - mando around here. Love to see that F4 of yours. I just acquired a 1916 A4 in pretty good shape and I'm loving it. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Rob G. Vermont

11-06-2009, 11:34 PM	#59
Rob Gerety Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vermont - Upper Valley Posts: 820	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 Deleted - sorry __________________ Rob G. Vermont

11-07-2009, 10:37 AM	#60
Joey McKenzie Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 That looks like a really nice A-4 Rob. I have a 1920 A-4 that I like a lot, but I wish it had Handel tuners like yours. I am fairly computer challenged but I will try to get a few photos of my '24 F-4 posted this weekend. I would love to get some feedback from the Cafe folks. Yes Rob, that is me playing guitar with The Quebe Sisters Band. Until the QSB, I had never played guitar in a band so it has been a blast. I used to play mandolin when I was a young whipper snapper and now I'm trying to get back into the swing of things. Joey

11-09-2009, 08:09 AM	#63
Pete Martin Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,173	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 Nice to have you around Joey and good to hear you are getting back to playing the mando again. My '23 F4 is here: http://www.mandolinarchive.com/perl/show_mando.pl?3268 __________________ ----------- Pete Martin http://www.petimarpress.com Free Mandolin and Fiddle Instructional .pdf Files Private lessons in the greater Seattle area Webcam lessons "Mandolin: Even in tune is out of tune"

11-09-2009, 11:32 PM	#64
Joey McKenzie Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 Thanks Rob and John for the kind words, and good to see you at the Cafe Pete! I may be doing some instructional DVD's in the next year. If it happens, one of the DVD's would certainly be for swing &/or Texas style rhythm guitar. Royce Franklin is a good friend of mine and a big inspiration to me on guitar as well, Rob. If you ever get to the Ft. Worth area, come by and we'll play a few tunes! May be a few more day before I can get photos of my F-4 posted as we are going to be in South Texas for the next few days. Joey quebesistersband.com

11-09-2009, 11:39 PM	#65
Joey McKenzie Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 Pete, I just checked out your '23 F-4 - looks like a mighty nice one! Joey quebesistersband.com

11-12-2009, 03:27 PM	#68
Goodin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 175	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 In a pawn shop!? Might be hot.

11-12-2009, 04:01 PM	#70
mrmando Martin Stillion Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 3,802	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 Did you get it, Gail? I sent e-mail and left a phone message but I guess someone else beat me to the punch. Sorry if I described the shop incorrectly. __________________ Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy! The Priest and the Publicans: Gospel bluegrass out of the box. Emando.com: More than you wanted to know. Donaldson • Rigel • Thormahlen • Andersen • Old Wave • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Roberts • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

11-12-2009, 04:11 PM	#71
Gail Hester Hester Mandolins Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Poulsbo, WA (Seattle) Posts: 1,518	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 I saw it and tried to pass the info to someone who I knew was looking for one but they had already seen it and bought it. He happened to be looking at the classifieds when it pooped up and he called imediately. Sometimes you have to be real fast. I have seen additional pictures of the mandola and the store, nice H4. Not sure what year yet but it looks to be 24 or 25. I'm sure the owner will post after he gets it in hand. __________________ Gail Hester

11-15-2009, 06:43 PM	#72
squirrelabama Geoff Clarkson Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 292	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 It is a '25. SN# 81656. This one has been played alot, and based on the tone it creates, I can understand why! I'll need to get some photos to Dan B for the archive. Attached Thumbnails __________________ I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

11-15-2009, 11:25 PM	#73
theBlood Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Healdsburg, California Posts: 124	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 Here's my F4, Ser. #68472 __________________ www.jyoungblood.com

11-16-2009, 12:27 AM	#74
woodwizard Mike Parks Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Knoxville Arkansas Posts: 1,830	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 That's a nice looking one Blood. Love those "Cherry Burst" Gibson oval hole F4's & A4's! __________________ I Pick, Therefore I Grin! 1919 Gibson A4 '06 Gibson F5 Goldrush '47 Gibson L7

11-16-2009, 07:44 AM	#75
Goodin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 175	Re: Value help: 1924 Gibson F-4 That's a nice one squirrelabama! Looks like you got a sweet deal too. I looked into it but it was too late.