Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? - Page 2

jake4mando · 11-01-2009, 10:53 AM

A guess from my mando-tasting limited ears:

1 Eastman
2 Mowry
3 Gibson

The 3rd just sounds more tight and focused than the other 2 to me. I tend to associate that with f hole mandolins. The 2nd is a great open sounding mandolin with overtones. The first sounds open as well, just not as many overtones to me.

I'll wager that I am more than likely dead wrong, but what a fun thread!

Narayan Kersak · 11-01-2009, 01:33 PM

I'll post the results tomorrow night or monday morning. See you then!

Jim Broyles · 11-01-2009, 01:57 PM

Gibson - Only one that could NOT be an oval hole, IOW, not tubby.
Mowry - tubby, like an oval hole.
Eastman - has the oval hole tubbiness, but not as much as #2.

Philphool · 11-02-2009, 08:40 AM

What Jim said.

Santiago · 11-02-2009, 09:04 AM

So what were they?

Narayan Kersak · 11-02-2009, 02:19 PM

#1 is the Eastman

#2 is the Mowry

#3 is the Gibson

There it is!

Jim Broyles · 11-02-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narayan Kersak

#1 is the Eastman

#2 is the Mowry

#3 is the Gibson

There it is!

This is what I originally thought, (yeah, I know, but it's true) but the post from Sean at Eastman made me change my mind. He was adamant that #1 is NOT the Eastman. It still does not sound like an oval hole to me.

OldSausage · 11-02-2009, 04:57 PM

Andrew DeMarco · 11-02-2009, 05:49 PM

Hmm.

I'm guessing #1 is Eastman, #2 is the Mowry and #3 is the Gibson.

Oh hey look I happened to have guessed right! What refined ears I have!

Narayan Kersak · 11-02-2009, 07:35 PM

There were other Eastman's on the rack, but I just picked the first one I saw. I played a nice F hole that played easily...and did sound hands down better than the gibson, which surprised me...you know Gibson is pretty good and giving people the idea that there are no better instruments.

Steve Ostrander · 11-03-2009, 07:52 AM

I don't know about the instruments, but the tune is "The Battle of Evermore". Do I get a consolation prize?

Narayan Kersak · 11-03-2009, 07:55 AM

Can you name the two tunes on the other clip? The last one is easy, the reel is from the land of the Celts, and not well known.

SChase@EastmanStrings · 11-03-2009, 01:35 PM

I am shocked, I have never heard one of our ovals sound anything like that #1 clip.

Narayan Kersak · 11-03-2009, 05:00 PM

Well...it doesn't really make that much of a difference, I mean a few folks thought #1 was an instrument that cost 2 to 2.5 more than the Eastman was selling for. I think a good point has been proven here. Or has it?

OldSausage · 11-03-2009, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narayan Kersak

Well...it doesn't really make that much of a difference, I mean a few folks thought #1 was an instrument that cost 2 to 2.5 more than the Eastman was selling for. I think a good point has been proven here. Or has it?

Well, I guess in as far as it shows we can't tell a cheap A4 from an expensive F5, you might conclude that we also couldn't tell a cheap F5 from an expensive F5. But if you wanted to demonstrate that, choosing from just two F5s at different price points would probably have made it clearer. This way there were too many variables.

Also your introductory post led me to make inferences about which was which that had less to do with the sound files - it was really what you said in that post that led me to believe the Mowry was #2, and not my ears so much.

jkaplan · 11-03-2009, 06:03 PM

Actually, I am more impressed by how many people identified them correctly.

Brad Weiss · 11-03-2009, 06:05 PM

Like I said! The first time...

hank · 11-03-2009, 06:59 PM

Ryan I thought it was fun. But honestly we have a lot of threads about how a great sounding instrument is subjective and the tonal & projection differences of oval hole and f hole flat and carved top and back etc. etc.. These impressions we get from live acoustic sound can rarely be experienced with reproductions of the original. The recreated pressure wave is only a weak resemblance of the original and can't be expected to give all the audio/tactile clues needed. No, I'm not an expert, and have no idea of what I'm talking about but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

11-01-2009, 10:53 AM	#26
jake4mando Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? A guess from my mando-tasting limited ears: 1 Eastman 2 Mowry 3 Gibson The 3rd just sounds more tight and focused than the other 2 to me. I tend to associate that with f hole mandolins. The 2nd is a great open sounding mandolin with overtones. The first sounds open as well, just not as many overtones to me. I'll wager that I am more than likely dead wrong, but what a fun thread!

11-01-2009, 01:33 PM	#27
Narayan Kersak Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 377	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? I'll post the results tomorrow night or monday morning. See you then! __________________ Ryan Kurczak's Official Web Page www.ryan-kurczak.com

11-01-2009, 01:57 PM	#28
Jim Broyles jbmando RIP HK Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA Posts: 3,408	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? Gibson - Only one that could NOT be an oval hole, IOW, not tubby. Mowry - tubby, like an oval hole. Eastman - has the oval hole tubbiness, but not as much as #2. __________________ "I thought I knew a lot about music. Then you start digging and the deeper you go, the more there is."~John Mellencamp "Theory only seems like rocket science when you don't know it. Once you understand it, it's more like plumbing!"~John McGann "Songs and tunes are not in chords. They are in keys. Raw Hide is in the key of C, not C Chord."~Me

11-02-2009, 08:40 AM	#29
Philphool Phil Goodson Join Date: May 2006 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 769	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? What Jim said. __________________ Phil

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11-02-2009, 02:19 PM	#31
Narayan Kersak Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 377	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? #1 is the Eastman #2 is the Mowry #3 is the Gibson There it is! __________________ Ryan Kurczak's Official Web Page www.ryan-kurczak.com

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OldSausage David Mold Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Decatur, GA Posts: 424	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? __________________ mandoliniana blog

11-02-2009, 05:49 PM	#34
Andrew DeMarco Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 344	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? Hmm. I'm guessing #1 is Eastman, #2 is the Mowry and #3 is the Gibson. Oh hey look I happened to have guessed right! What refined ears I have! __________________ Collings MT Weber Gallatin Mandocello Language is the armory of the human mind, and at once contains the trophies of its past and the weapons of its future conquests. -Samuel Taylor Coleridge

11-02-2009, 07:35 PM	#35
Narayan Kersak Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 377	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? There were other Eastman's on the rack, but I just picked the first one I saw. I played a nice F hole that played easily...and did sound hands down better than the gibson, which surprised me...you know Gibson is pretty good and giving people the idea that there are no better instruments. __________________ Ryan Kurczak's Official Web Page www.ryan-kurczak.com

11-03-2009, 07:52 AM	#36
Steve Ostrander Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 644	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? I don't know about the instruments, but the tune is "The Battle of Evermore". Do I get a consolation prize? __________________ Steve ________________________ "The older the violin, the sweeter the music." Gus McRae

11-03-2009, 07:55 AM	#37
Narayan Kersak Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 377	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? Can you name the two tunes on the other clip? The last one is easy, the reel is from the land of the Celts, and not well known. __________________ Ryan Kurczak's Official Web Page www.ryan-kurczak.com

11-03-2009, 01:35 PM	#38
SChase@EastmanStrings www.eastmanmandolins.com Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pomona, Ca Posts: 248	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? I am shocked, I have never heard one of our ovals sound anything like that #1 clip. __________________ Sean Chase Fretted Instrument Specialist Eastman Strings Pomona, Ca

11-03-2009, 05:00 PM	#39
Narayan Kersak Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 377	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? Well...it doesn't really make that much of a difference, I mean a few folks thought #1 was an instrument that cost 2 to 2.5 more than the Eastman was selling for. I think a good point has been proven here. Or has it? __________________ Ryan Kurczak's Official Web Page www.ryan-kurczak.com

11-03-2009, 06:03 PM	#41
jkaplan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? Actually, I am more impressed by how many people identified them correctly.

11-03-2009, 06:05 PM	#42
Brad Weiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Chapel Hill NC Posts: 1,169	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? Like I said! The first time... __________________ ---------- Soundclick Tunes! YouTube Channel

11-03-2009, 06:59 PM	#43
hank Henry Lawton Join Date: May 2009 Location: Greenwood, Ar Posts: 286	Re: Eastman, Gibson, Mowry - Which is it? Ryan I thought it was fun. But honestly we have a lot of threads about how a great sounding instrument is subjective and the tonal & projection differences of oval hole and f hole flat and carved top and back etc. etc.. These impressions we get from live acoustic sound can rarely be experienced with reproductions of the original. The recreated pressure wave is only a weak resemblance of the original and can't be expected to give all the audio/tactile clues needed. No, I'm not an expert, and have no idea of what I'm talking about but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.