Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Downstate Illinois
    Posts
    211

    Default Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    I'm trying to get geared up for some cold-weather woodshedding in the hopes of hitting bluegrass jams in the fall. I have a nice stack of DVDs on bluegrass rhythm guitar, and I think I can boom-chuck on a 6 string without embarrassing myself too badly.

    About a year back, I got a pretty incredible 1933 single-cone National tenor, which I've kept in CGDA tuning. I'm no great picker, but simply open-chord 1st position strumming really has a nice sense of authority coming out of that steel body. On the few fiddle tunes I've messed around with, being heard on leads is not a problem. I'm not shy about using the capo, so that helps.

    So . . . I'm thinking about really committing myself to taking the tenor to all the jams next summer. Seems like there's a few different ways to come at the reso tenor as a bluegrass instrument. First, this open-chord strumming I've been doing, which probably gets the job done when I'm singing. Second, you can do an Irish tenor banjo thing, playing fiddle-type leads out of first position. Third, if I actually learn to work the whole neck, there's that Texas fiddle backup style.

    Well, I have the instrument, and I have the plan, and now I just gotta do the work.

  2. #2
    Mando-Accumulator Jim Garber's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Westchester, NY
    Posts
    30,761

    Default Re: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    The only thing I would check would be how strictly bluegrass these jams are. A National can be a loud instrument and to some folks might not fit in with the style. So I would talk to someone in charge at these jams. I don't mean to scare you away from trying but it would be a drag to get there and get stink eye in your direction.
    Jim

    My Stream on Soundcloud
    Facebook
    19th Century Tunes
    Playing lately:
    1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1

  3. #3
    man about town Markus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Madison, Wisconsin
    Posts
    1,970
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    I agree with Jim. Some jams are open to a little genre-bending, some want it just like it was.

    That is a loud instrument. The jam I attend regularly has a couple great guitarists with very quiet guitars. When their turn to solo comes, the volume drops so that everyone can hear the soloist. The better jams I go to all do this, a loud instrument is not needed in a jam where people listen (and then adjust).

    I would add that bluegrass has roles each instrument plays. Having someone going outside those roles is distracting and can lead to stepping on other people's toes.

    We have a guy with an accordion show up to a jam I go to. Being a polite player who only really gets loud during his solo and tends to be very quiet doing rhythm leaves us sounding like bluegrass but requires good ears and attitude. There are friendly jams and players who play loud instruments with great dynamics and listening .... when you find a welcoming jam making sure your rhythm never overpowers others (esp solos) will do you well.

    Sounds interesting. I would love to hear it.

  4. #4
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    13,126

    Default Re: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    My National single-cone tenor has been welcomed with open arms whenever I've brought it to a bluegrass jam. It's advisable to use a light touch when playing rhythm.
    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Lyon & Healy • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

  5. #5
    Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Downstate Illinois
    Posts
    211

    Default Re: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    Good points all around, particularly as to the strumming volume. With great power comes great responsibility.

  6. #6
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Chicago - most lately but - home is in Northern Arkansas.
    Posts
    606

    Default Re: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    You might think about using your thumb (plain) in place of a flat pick. That makes a resonator sound fatter but no where near as loud. At least that's how it works on my reso's.
    Mandola fever is permanent.

  7. #7
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Vermont, USA
    Posts
    128

    Default Re: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    I've been using my reso tenor more and more in bluegrass/folk situations and am realizing that less is more - these beauties can fulfill a role not unlike a sparse electric guitar in a well produced pop session. Play a chord on the the downbeat and just let it hang there, do a walk up on a chord change and then cut out, play a little lick to answer a vocal line . . . these kind of things seem to just add a bit of timbre. The fun is in getting in and then out, not playing thru the tune - a dash of color here and there.
    Will Patton

  8. #8
    Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Downstate Illinois
    Posts
    211

    Default Re: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Will Patton View Post
    I've been using my reso tenor more and more in bluegrass/folk situations and am realizing that less is more -
    Yeah . . . people say that about my playing all the time.

    I just did a little woodshedding tonight . . . not sure how the rest of the world will feel about it, but I believe I like the chop chord on the 2 and 4, with an occasional little flash of Dixieland.

    Will, I was just listening to your recording of "Cafe Manouche" the other day and thinking about how great la pompe would sound on this tenor of mine, in the hands of a better player . . .

  9. #9
    Registered User Charles E.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Saint Augustine Beach FL
    Posts
    6,649

    Default Re: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    I have a 1932 National Triolian that I play in an old time band ( eight members, four fiddle players ) the punch this little beast delivers is a god send. Yes, in some jam sessions it is good to hold back but it is nice to know that you have volume when you need it. And boy does it give it!
    Charley

    A bunch of stuff with four strings

  10. #10

    Default Re: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    I play my '30 National tenor occasionally in the jug band, and our banjo man always says, "that's a nasty instrument." He means it with love...I think.
    2020 Custom Weber Yellowstone F-20-F octave mandolin
    2019 Weber Yellowstone F-17 mandola
    2019 Custom Weber Diamondback F14-F
    2018 Custom Weber Yellowstone F14-0
    2016 Weber Octar

    www.webermandolins.com/mandolin-artists/michael-eck

  11. #11
    Registered User mikeyes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Fond du Lac, WI
    Posts
    954

    Default Re: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Markus View Post
    We have a guy with an accordion show up to a jam I go to.
    Bill Monroe did too, for a while

  12. #12
    Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Downstate Illinois
    Posts
    211

    Default Re: Reso tenor as my bluegrass jam weapon of choice

    I guess I'm traditional enough that I would like my reso tenor to be the least traditional thing at the jam. I suppose it's hypocritical of me to turn the djembe player away . . .

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •