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    Sadly, this technique is reserved for electric instruments. The bass player Victor Wooten does this a lot, as does the guitar player Michael Angelo Batio. There was even an extra instrument type developed for this: the stick guitar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertram Henze View Post
    Sadly, this technique is reserved for electric instruments.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shYdq...yer_detailpage Here's how it's done on an acoustic.

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    Unless I am mistaken (and yes, that has been known), the first guy to make his name using this technique was Stanley Jordan.

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    I think you still need amplification to produce those sounds. Also, I wonder how and if these techniques would work on a shorter scale like a mandolin esp on with 8 strings. Anybody trying that?

    Close as I can find... not quite what the guitarists are doing, some tapping but more hammer-ons and pull-offs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    I think you still need amplification to produce those sounds.
    I think that, too. Getting a string to ring out loudly enough for acoustic transference just by tapping it against a fret - I don't know. This is definitely more than a hammer-on (where the string in question is supposed to be already oscillating).
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueron View Post
    Unless I am mistaken (and yes, that has been known), the first guy to make his name using this technique was Stanley Jordan.

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    I'll second that.

    I can do cool tapping stuff on my electric mandolin, but I can't play the stanely jordan style really... on acoustic it's very tough to do anything like that loud enough to make it useful!
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    I do like that stick bass sound!!!
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    Plenty do it acoustically, The first time I saw it a guy pulled a Martin off the wall in a music store and started doing it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TEE View Post
    Plenty do it acoustically, The first time I saw it a guy pulled a Martin off the wall in a music store and started doing it.
    If you look very closely, most of this guy's right hand fingers are doing fingerpicking, not tapping. Still it couldn't fill a concert hall without amplification.
    When I said "electric", I didn't neccessarily mean magnetic humbuckers, I just meant electric current somewhere in the device chain.
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    The very first person i saw using that technique was a long time ago & his name was Stanley Jordan,as Ron says.He was on UK TV & he played 'Eleanor Rigby'.Here's the original (slightly out of synch.) clip from the UK TV 'Jools Holland Show'.I don't think that the audience quite knew or appreciated what was going on here,i certainly didn't - the guy is simply amazing & his 1985 recording 'Magic Touch' is a revelation re.what can be done on an electric Guitar using the 'tap' technique. He wasn't the first to use the 'tap' technique,but he developed it to the stage where it became an almost 'pianistic' form of playing,
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    It's a technique for people who can't play the guitar properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hanson View Post
    It's a technique for people who can't play the guitar properly.Dave H
    agreed - fun to do but tedious to listen to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billkilpatrick View Post
    love the shower curtain - a bit sticky/clammy in summer, i bet
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    Quote Originally Posted by billkilpatrick View Post
    agreed - fun to do but tedious to listen to.
    Do check out the Stanley Jordan clips on YouTube. He plays in a much less frenetic style and is very lyrical.

    BTW-- I first saw Stanley Jordan as the opening act for Bill Cosby many years ago. Just him, one amp and his guitar and he really turned my head around.
    I met Stanley after a local concert a few years later and asked him if he needed a special guitar to play like that. He said he could do it on any guitar, including acoustic, if the action was very low and the neck in perfect shape.
    I really gotta get some of his MP3s-- thanks for reminding me.
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    Default Re: Not mando, but you need to see this...

    Was it Stanley Jordan or Jaco Pastorius? Not sure, but they were amongst the first for sure.

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    Jimmy Webster was a demo man for Gretch,I believe,back in the sixties. Great player. He always said that the guitar was meant to be plucked with the fingers. Said you could always ID the pick guys because (rolling his eyes and jamming his hand deep into his pocket)they always had that "lookin' for a pick look".

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