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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertram Henze View Post
    If the name of the tune is the problem, you can always do what the Irish do in such a case - take evasive action and resort to the name in Irish:
    Port Ui Mhuirgheasa
    Now where is the IP holder calling dibs on that...

    If all else fails, do what Irish musicians frequently did and invent a new name for it, such as
    - David's Favourite
    - The Glass on the Nose
    - Sausage before Breakfast
    - The Mold on the Mike
    - ...

    And if they ever invent software to recognise a tune by sound detection, they'll have one hell of a time classifying Irish tune versions, and David is among those least in danger of getting caught.
    I like "Sausage Before Breakfast", there is something delightfully impossible about it - maybe I'll write a new tune just so I can use the name

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    Interesting thread, David. I too noticed that four of my postings are noted as having "Matched Third-party Content" - Tennessee Waltz, Faded Love, The Frost Is All Over and Boolavogue. Faded Love has the note "White Dove musical composition administered by....". I have never till now really thought about this too much and have not had any other correspondence from anywhere regarding those tunes. I will watch this thread with some interest.

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    Hi John - I don't know if you saw my post that they got back to me straight away and said they had reviewed it and released the claim. So I think as long as you're sure the video is in the public domain then go ahead and challenge it. I'm not too sure what the status of the tunes you've listed might be.

    Of course, because they don't tell you who has made that claim (in my case they just said "One or more music publishing rights collecting societies"), it's impossible to tell whether it's actually a legitimate claim or not (since the songs might be held by somebody who is not the claimant) - which to me seems rather one-sided.

    Interestingly (or not), none of my other videos, of which there are nearly 200 (mostly old fiddle tunes and the like), had any of these notes on them.

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    Google it - it is a common problem. I only have 4 videos on YT (3 Bach and 1 Mozart), but the same thing happened when I submitted each one of them. The first time it gave me pause and I had to find out if others were experiencing the same thing too - they were, and some thought it was a scam of some sort, while others thought YT was just excessively protecting its rear end. You did the right thing. If your material is public domain and an original performance, just contest it and the problem will go away immediately (automatically, it seems). The language is a bit intimidating the first time you see it, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSausage View Post
    in my case they just said "One or more music publishing rights collecting societies"
    Imagine collecting rights instead of music.
    Imagine Francis O'Neill crawling from his grave and claiming property of it all...
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    "...nothing special..." I could listen all day and dream of how good it would be to have hands that could do that.

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    I will add to the compliments, OS. Nice job on the song and that is indeed a great sounding mandolin! It sounds a lot like my Stonebridge except better!

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    Hi OS - Thanks for the info.That's the first Silver Angel that i've knowingly heard - stunning !,
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    Funny, that. After reading your thread, I checked my YouTube channel. At the click of a hitherto unnoticed button about copyright notices, I found that a claim had been made about a clip in which I play some Christmas tunes! Apparently the system had picked up on Greensleeves/What Child is This, which somebody somewhere must have recorded and released under copyright.

    I followed the steps you have described, pointing out that I'm not copying a recorded piece of music but playing a centuries-old traditional tune long in the public domain. Like you, I received an email about the release of the copyright claim just moments afterwards. This must be automated just like the detection of potentially copyrighted material. Playing traditional music, we probably have nothing to worry about.

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    Nice tone there.
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    Thanks Santiago. Gelsenbury, well, I wonder - someone probably owns the rights to all the Monroe tunes I've recorded. It's hard to be sure - a lot of tunes I assumed were traditional or anonymous have turned out not to be. I agree you're on safe ground with Greensleeves, though.

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    Bit the bullet just now and disputed the copyright notice on my version of the traditional Irish tune Boolavogue. As other posters have said, there was a certain shiver in the spine as I went through the stages of the dispute, but almost straight away the notice has disappeared from the video in question. I am not disputing the Tennessee Waltz notice as I know this will be a copyrighted tune, but I am not using it commercially and it seems not to be causing problems and is still available for all to view.

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    Default Re: Can I put a video of me playing Morrison's Jig on YouTube?

    But when all these other claims are bogus, it makes you wonder who is making the claims. It seems like YouTube has put the onus on the uploader to prove that the rights to their track are NOT owned by someone who stakes a claim to it, and I just wonder if this policy has encouraged someone unscrupulous to attempt to profit from it. It's impossible to know without more information, of course.

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    In our litigious society I feel these claims are just a method to CYA.
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