A Uke, Mando and a 6 stringer.

[the padma]

Ok dooders...

here be the pics of closeing the perimeter....using corner blocks that are made`of the same type of wood me gonna use for the banding in this case padauk. Some times they are solid blocks however in these builds they are lamd with spruce. This blocking method eliminates the process of cutting out a cross channel to insert the banding into later.... see pics, you'll get the gist of me drift.



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Ok. is Friday, me and me lady friend gonna go dancing tonight, maybe lay down some toons over the next few days, she is quite the picker.

So dojo closed till next week when me tackle the kurfed linings.



blessings
duh Padma


PS: Oh and by the way the trilogy has now becom a quartet ... me added a bass...see pic
of bass and the 6 stringer and the uke and finally the mando.

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[Hokurai]

I'm with Bill on this. At best it's a seriously irritating affectation. And yes, I too know how to hide all of the irritating posts, but given that they also include building content that I will enjoy following, I just wish the man would drop the silly affectation and remove the pain for those of us who quite like reading English and ARE genuinely interested in the instruments he is building.

ron

So you're saying that you enjoy reading about what he does but you hate his writing style and want him to change it to suit your fashion?

[the padma]

So you're saying that you enjoy reading about what he does but you hate his writing style and want him to change it to suit your fashion?

Das ok Ron....if you no likes, you no need read me words ...you may still look at the pics if you wish...me posts lot of pics.

[Hokurai]

And Padma, I'm really enjoying the process that you put into your craft. Even though I'm not entirely sure how to make out that drawing of yours.

[Geordie]

I'm not entirely sure how to make out that drawing of yours.

Modern alchemy.

[Matt the Mead Maker]

Amazing work, my Brother! Very inspirational - keep 'em coming!

[the padma]

Thanks Guys,

Dojo still closed,

New build ideas are commin on way too fast...gotta go chill and so me decided to go fishing for a few days. You know, sunshine and lolly pops and rainbows and big fat trouts....let the minds babbling subside a bit.

blessings
See ay all in a few days.
duh Padma

Ps . hear be a piece of eye candy for you ....me likes the mando head.



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[Perry Babasin]

Your turtle-back design reminds me of the old Vega Cylinder back mandolins.

[Mandoviol]

And Padma, I'm really enjoying the process that you put into your craft. Even though I'm not entirely sure how to make out that drawing of yours.

I think he's working off of existing ratios in luthierie (notice the outline of a cutaway guitar in there)--granted, everybody is. But he's making sure that it matches the Golden Ratio φ which is

All the great violin-makers seem to have used it, and this proportion seems to get the best sound (it is perfect, after-all).

[nancejo]

I expected the body of post to start off with "walked into a bar".

[Rodney Riley]

Hey Padma, are you playin with Ritchie? A guy that looks a lot like you enters at about 5:19.

[the padma]

Sorry Rodney,

duh Padma no be playing with nobody no more no more. Sadly me not a player, me a builder ~ of sorts. But
thank you for asking.


BLessings
duh Padma

[journeybear]

I expected the body of post to start off with "walked into a bar".

I did, too. But you never know where things will lead with Padma. I certainly did not expect math to play a big part in the discussion, though. Now, my understanding of the Golden Ratio was it is √2:1 (~1.414), so that an object with sides of this ratio retains the relation when two are placed side by side - that is, √2:1 = 2:√2 and so forth - or divided in half. And my understanding was ancient Greek temples were built with this proportion in mind.

I now see it is something different, and more complex, or as wikipedia puts it, the ratio of the sum of the quantities to the larger quantity is equal to the ratio of the larger quantity to the smaller one - in formulaic terms, (a + b)/a = a/b = φ = 1.618. This allows for such niceties as the removal of a square section with lengths or the shorter side of a Golden Rectangle to leave a smaller Golden Rectangle, and so forth to infinty. A Golden Spiral is produced the same way - if I am reading this right - and these are evident all throughout nature - shells, flowers (like the lotus blossum, or padma), and F style mandolins. A Fibonnacci sequence produces a similar spiral when applied to this formulation, but mathematicians do not care much for similarities but rather seek exactitude (statisticians have a slightly different attitude). Same with craftsmen - often, approximation is good enough. That is, the difference between two objects (say, F scrolls) derived from these two methods may often be negligible. Then again, they may still be perceptible - as some of the examples in the Worst Scroll thread demonstrate. Since one of the basic tenets of the Golden Ratio concept is that it produces objects which are pleasing to the eye, such considerations ore often considerable, despite some possibly nit-picking aspects.

I must say, it has been fun learning about this, and not what I expected to encounter when I wandered into the forum today. Or the agora. Pythagoras, Euclid, and Archimedes weren't around, but I had an illuminating chat with Wikipedius.

Anyway, a uke, mando and a 6 stringer walk into a bar, see a sign on the wall behind the bar that says "No banjos allowed," and just smile.

[Rodney Riley]

PS: Oh and by the way the trilogy has now becom a quartet ... me added a bass...

Thinkin about which artist lineup that would be great to see play in this quartet when the instruments are finished... Eva Holbrook-Mando, Russ Barenburg or Brad Paisley-Guitar, Jake Shimabukuro-Ukelele. And the Bass, I'm not familiar with an artist for it. Suggestions...

[the padma]

Eva , Russ or Brad and Jake eh. Good suggestion! ...ok Rod, you line them up and me supply the instruments.

[the padma]

oK,

me back at these builds.

They are now on their layout boards.




You may notice that the mando has been reworked into a two pointer. At this stage of building, normally if me changes the design me wood just throw it away and start over... but part of the concept of these builds is "All woods are from the same tree" and not having enough of the same tree left me unglued it, rebent the cut aways and cut and bent new ribs.


Ran a mess of curfed out linings and installed them on the bass. Then me gonna line the other 3 while prepping the plates . Not in too much of a hurry as it is our rainy season but I wood like to have them all ready for the closing up before the dry season starts...Ya me got the environmental controls but hey...just a waist of electricity. Any ways, is more fun to build with the seasons, keeps me more in touch with momma nature and all that.

Will post again when the plates are ready to glue down.


blessings
duh Padma

[Brutus1999]

Well, I guess this settles the "accent" thing. I too was a bit put off by the affected language, but if it truly is Cookie M that Padma is honoring, I'm okay with letting it go. Can he play Cookie's favorite tune: "Moon over My Cookie" ? That would be the true test.

In defense of those who were originally (including me) irritated -- it wasn't clear what was going on. Suppose someone posted something about Chinese-made mandolins and did the whole post in a fake, 1950's comedian's imitation of how ignorant people believe that Chinese people speak? An objection might be appropriate. But a careful semantic (most definitely NOT anti-semantic) analysis of the language structure of this very cunning linguist does reveal that it is likely Cookie M that Padma is emulating -- so that should put an end to this.

On another note, does anyone know what kind of varnish that famed Italian instrument builder Fibonnaci, used on his mandolins in the 17th century?
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We two leggeds are funny creatures in that we tend to emulate that which we like ~ just look at all the F5 being made. Well me was raised on Sesame Street and Cookie is me hero, so me emulates me hero...see pic of hero. ATTACH=CONFIG]85918[/ATTACH]

You guys can emulate Lloyed Loar all you want , me won't be holdin that against you.

So Ed...faire ce que tu veux. Thanks but don't go be worryin about what me be stringin up although me must confess...me don't gotts not a clue as to what me be doin.


blessings
duh ?adma

[eadg145]

As a trained physicist (and a bass player ), I got that drawing immediately. It's beautiful and elegant, and it corresponds well with a project I did for an acoustics engineering class in college, although I hadn't considered the Fibonacci sequence at that time. Anyway, I love the drawing ("me loves the drawing"), and I hope the Padma will allow me to print it for my own use and admiration (even a bigger version would be better).

As to Signore Fibonacci, he was a mathematician, not a luthier (although you probably knew that). We can all thank him that we don't have to use the Roman numeral system anymore. (Thanks, man.) If I recall correctly, trees sprout leaves according to that sequence as well.

[the padma]

Yo, eadg

you must be a bass player...

Regarding allowing you to print it for your own use and admiration and the

Protection of me Intellectual Property.

go here read this. Pay no attention to the babbleing after me post.

facere vis

blessings
duh Padma

[Brutus1999]

Thinkin about which artist lineup that would be great to see play in this quartet when the instruments are finished... Eva Holbrook-Mando, Russ Barenburg or Brad Paisley-Guitar, Jake Shimabukuro-Ukelele. And the Bass, I'm not familiar with an artist for it. Suggestions...


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Edgar Meyer

[Perry Babasin]

What about Edgar Meyer, Erik Friedlander, Stanley Clarke, Marcus Miller, Victor Wooten, Danny Thompson, Ray Brown, Harry Babasin (ha,ha) or Charlie Mingus on Bass.

[the padma]

Hi, duders,

well me back from running amuck with me currendero/shaman buddies in the jungles of Ecuador and then had to put out a few fires, rebuild the back deck, haul in the machinery...(I do my break out of wood outside under tarps in the summer) and reorganize the basement shop, sharpen every single edge that cuts, install dust pick up on the band saw, straighten out the mess in me painting studio and am now posting again to this build....

So stay tooned for picks in a day or two.


Blessings
duh ?adma

[John A]

looking forward to it

[the padma]

Well the backs are on but me has gotts tired of waiting for all the hardware for these builds to arrive,
although most of it has.

Me made a new sled jig to cut truss slots on the table saw.

Slapped on 2 blades with a cardboard spacer, screwed down the necks and shoved them through.










Guess I could work on the necks till all the hardware gets here.


blessings
duh Padma

[the padma]

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Finally got mythmass all pack up, family gone home and the electronics have arrived. So me decided to make some more sawdust.

This is the mando top, its sound hole has been reinforced and is getting its bracing goooded on.



Here you see the points on the mando and can start to get an idea of the tops profile.

in this pic you can see the template used for routing out the oval sound hole on the 2 pointer baritone guitar. string length 26.75 inches.

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Me then made ones of these suckers...
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and used it like this

Me then chased the line deeper with a medical scalpel.

Screwed a 2 1/2 in #8 into a handle and filed it into a chisel and cleaned out the cut.

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Will post again when the tops have the hardware installed and ready for closing up the box ~ now don't go holding yer breath cuz Pussie cat reminded me that me's kinda behind on the set of 4 padauk and lutz spruce traveler builds..

see nice pussie cat.

blessings
duh ?adma