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    Are these bridges ebony?
    they seem very light in color

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    Looks like rosewood to me.
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    Don't think so. Looks like east indian rosewood.

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    They look very much like the original bridge that was on my first Lebeda mandolin.I thought that it was Rosewood & fitted a CA Ebony bridge instead. However,apparently from what i've read,Ebony can be any colour from that shade to black,
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    The grain pores are different between ebony and rosewood. The bridges are EIRW.
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    There are different species of Ebony, which can have different colors. Your pic is not the "normal" ebony that we usually think of. I'm in with the Rosewood crowd.
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    I think a lot of ebony gets Dyed to be uniform color.. Y/N ?
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    I think a lot of ebony gets Dyed to be uniform color.. Y/N ?
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    Thanks everyone. I bought a bunch of these for repairs , but the seller still insists they are ebony

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    The weight should be a good indicator too. EIR and ebony have completely different densities.
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    IMO the grain on those is typical of East India Rosewood - Ebony should not have open grain like that no matter what the color.

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    Doesn't Maccassa (I think that's spelt right) ebony look similar to that?
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    In colouration.. it can, though it is still much denser and the pores are different.
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    Where can I get a good price for a dozen ebony bridges with international shipping
    Customers(me too) want those fancy and beautiful looking Cumberlands or Webers
    But most customers are on beer budgets

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    Where can I get a good price for a dozen ebony bridges with international shipping
    Customers(me too) want those fancy and beautiful looking Cumberlands or Webers
    But most customers are on beer budgets
    I've purchased them on E-bay for under $10, when I bought 3 it was under $6, Not great but nicer than the bridges that came on my Saga kits.
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    According to the data I've found, rosewood has a density of 0.75 while ebony is 1.03, measurably heavier. Rosewood should float in water while ebony would sink, although 1.03 is not that much denser than water and I suppose some ebony samples might float. But if it does sink, it's ebony.
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    I would agree that these bridges are Indian Rosewood, not Ebony. Colour, grain and the especially the pores are a dead giveaway for Indian Rosewood. I have never seen any species of Ebony with open pores like that. Indian Rosewood also has a characteristic smell that will confirm the identification 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim2723 View Post
    According to the data I've found, rosewood has a density of 0.75 while ebony is 1.03, measurably heavier. Rosewood should float in water while ebony would sink, although 1.03 is not that much denser than water and I suppose some ebony samples might float. But if it does sink, it's ebony.
    Those numbers are averages. I've had pieces of Honduran rosewood and Brazilian rosewood that were heavier than water (specific gravity greater then 1, will sink in water). Whether or not it will sink in water does not differentiate ebony from rosewood.
    Several experienced people have noted the similarity of the look of the bridges in the pic to east indian rosewood (myself included), and to me, that means it is the most likely possibility.

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    I totally disagree with all of the above. The only way to really tell the wood by pores
    is to cut a piece on the end, examine it by magnifying glass or other instrument and match
    the pore structure. I think from the picture it is very hard to tell. I have pieces of walnut
    (both american and black/british) sitting on the work bench that look pretty similar in color,
    grain and pores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunburst View Post
    Those numbers are averages. I've had pieces of Honduran rosewood and Brazilian rosewood that were heavier than water (specific gravity greater then 1, will sink in water). Whether or not it will sink in water does not differentiate ebony from rosewood.
    Several experienced people have noted the similarity of the look of the bridges in the pic to east indian rosewood (myself included), and to me, that means it is the most likely possibility.
    I'm sure there are significant variations in specific density for any species and the test is something less than definitive, but I found the info and shared it for whatever it's worth. The test isn't perfect, but it's something you can do in addition to just voting on it. It looks like rosewood to me too, but I know I can't vote a piece of wood into being something else.
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