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    I am looking for a Key chart for capos using adad. I am not very astute as you can tell or I would not be writing this. Can someone point me in the right direction. Thanks

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    I am used to a Dad diatonic scale.

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    Just found a fretboad printer online so I can print a fret board.

    http://www.studybass.com/tools/chord...-note-printer/

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    Here is some info on ADAD tuning:

    http://hspeek.home.xs4all.nl/bouzouki/adad/index.html
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    Thanks I have that. I was more interested in Keys and capos relationship. If a capo on one fret makes an Em key, what makes the e etc...

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    OK. Looks like you can play easily in D and A with no capo.

    Key of D includes the chords D, Em, G, A, Bm
    Key of A includes the chords A, Bm, D, E, F#m

    To play in the Key of E, put your capo on the second fret and play the chords as if you were playing in D. This is because the capo on the second fret raises the pitch of the strings by two half steps. Therefore, a D chord shape become an E chord, an Em chord shape becomes an F#m chord, etc.

    Likewise, to play in the key of C, place your capo on the third fret and play as if you were in the key of A.

    Here is a little table that will (hopefully) make things a bit easier to see how keys and chords transpose up as you put put a capo on the neck at various frets.

    fret number keys and/or chords
    0 A
    1 A#
    2 B
    3 C
    4 C#
    5 D
    6 D#
    7 E
    8 F
    9 F#
    10 G
    11 G#
    12 A

    fret number keys and/or chords
    0 D
    1 D#
    2 E
    3 F
    4 F#
    5 G
    6 G#
    7 A
    8 A#
    9 B
    10 C
    11 C#
    12 D
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    Thank you Pete. That is helpful. From the Han Speek website I printed the adad chords. Only about 11 pages long. This 24 inch scale is great stretch for my hands with this tuning. I have large hands and what I would consider short, but large fingers. Neck is about 1 1/4" wide. Easy stuff for me whether real chords or not is 0004 for D, 5555 for G and 7777 for a with 0099 for bm7. The close voicing on the high d makes for pleasant sound to me. For now, I just need to stick to about 6 easy chord or "chordish" shapes to keep it simple for dummies like me. I want to stay close to the diationic d scale I am used to so want to stay adad, but I wish this was a 22" or 23" scale. I guess I could drop the tuning to open c# and capo the first fret or open C and capo the second to shorten the scale a little, but that would lessen the frets available even more as well as would require heavier strings as G is about too low.

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    Just one more piece of advice: you don't always have to play all four strings. In fact, with a bouzouki, you can get a lot out of just playing one or two strings. Other tunings (like GDAD and GDAE) give you the opportunity to drone in keys G, D, and A without a capo. You can use this drone with two or three finger chord shapes to counteract those long reaches.
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    Thanks

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    Something else ihave considered that somewhat limiting ddad but simple if i am going to drone any way. Or the drone d even an octave lower.

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    That would have to be a string the size of a rope for a low D. I'd go with the GDAE tuning. It gives you a lot of options. Here are some. (Each line is a new chord variation. 0 is an open string, X is an unplayed string):

    A
    2200
    677X
    970X

    Am
    2230
    577x
    X778

    Bm
    445X
    X457
    X99 10

    C
    0230
    55XX
    557X
    10 10 12 X

    D (my favorite)
    2 0 0 0
    7 0 0 0
    7 7 0 0
    11 0 0 0
    13 0 0 0
    X 4 5 0
    X 4 5 5
    7 7 5 5 (or any combination)

    G

    0 0 2 3
    0 5 5 7
    7 5 X X
    4 5 5 X
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    Thanks Pete. Actually, I have tuned this D2,D3,A3,D4. The D2 is a 45w, but I think a 47 would be better as it is a tad loose. Remember this is a 24" scale intstrument so a guitar low e works ok. But, I guess on a mandolin, it would have to be D3,D4,A3,D5. Right?

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    Why not try GDAD? It is the most prevalent tuning for Irish bouzouki and so there is a ton of recorded material out there. It also greatly facilitates playing in G and gives you a really handy root position IV chord in the key of D (VII in A, etc.)
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    Thanks. I have actually retuned to D3 F#3 A3 D4 after trying D2D3A3D4 which was interesting. I don't know why more don't use that tuning.

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