The oval market has opened up a little since the original thread, although I haven't tried many of the offerings, especially F models. The revised Kentucky KM270 I have not tried, but it is an A. The Eastman low-end ovals look great and are, no doubt, a performance bargain once really set and tweaked. And there are others. Would be lovely to have a side by side shootout with all the offerings! Battle of the ovals.