I guess the signed Loar label fell out!

**f5loar** · Aug-24-2011, 2:13pm

For those of you who have never seen a real Gibson Loar era F5 FAKE this is one to study. It has the regular 1924 Master Model serial no. label complete with an unknown fake serial number. I would assume the signed Loar label fell out over the years OR this maybe one of those undocumented unsigned Loars that were seconds not worthy of Mr. Loars approval (Darryl W. and Ken W. know what I am talking about) from '24. Very interesting.................. Please note this is from a musical instrument dealer who seems to in the words of Sgt. Schultz of Hogan's Heros "I know nothing!!!!!" May the bidding begin!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Gibs...item1e666ab077

**f5loar** · Aug-24-2011, 2:19pm

oh wait, I can barely see there is a label attached in the lower F hole. Not sure why they would not have posted a clear photo of that label. I've asked the seller to post a photo of the 2nd label. Hummm maybe it is..............!!!XXXXX!!!!CCC NOT!

**rico mando** · Aug-24-2011, 2:24pm

might be a good mando at the right price

**Denny Gies** · Aug-24-2011, 2:36pm

Yeah,, that durned lable thing happened to mine too.

**Markus** · Aug-24-2011, 2:39pm

That's a lot of pinky-planting going on ... also interesting to see the non-bookmatched back with the interesting grain.

For the current $0.99, I'd buy it.

**Jim Garber** · Aug-24-2011, 2:40pm

Hmmmm... it could be worth 99¢ (current bid).

**barrangatan** · Aug-24-2011, 3:02pm

What about the case? Does it look period-correct and possibly authentic? Those real F5 cases from that period can be worth quite a bit, at least more than the current bid price ($22.72).

BTW, if memory serves, this seller is the same one that had returned Alan Bond's stolen Stan Miller mandolin to him once it was brought to the seller's attention, as mentioned in this thread. So while they are no instrument expert, they do seem to do the right thing when the opportunity presents itself.

**Spruce** · Aug-24-2011, 3:09pm

First Loar I've seen with a walnut back....
That's gotta be rare....

**Tom C** · Aug-24-2011, 3:10pm

There's just so much wrong with that it's not even funny.

**nobullmando74** · Aug-24-2011, 3:39pm

They should have taken it to the Pawn Stars! Easily 15k if not more.

**Andrew B. Carlson** · Aug-24-2011, 4:05pm

I kinda like it.

**Andrew B. Carlson** · Aug-24-2011, 4:37pm

Woops. Spoke too soon. It's up to $510.00. Still tempting cuz it's a neat piece, but after about $600.00, the temptation will cease. If it wasn't for the walnut back, I think this would be a pretty cool one to have.

**Charlieshafer** · Aug-24-2011, 4:40pm

The walnut is actually pretty, but the scroll? F holes? Strange little piece of mandolinism.

**mrmando** · Aug-24-2011, 4:54pm

Jamie Curtis built an H5 with a walnut back that sounds amazing...

**MikeEdgerton** · Aug-24-2011, 4:56pm

Originally Posted by barrangatan

What about the case? Does it look period-correct and possibly authentic? Those real F5 cases from that period can be worth quite a bit, at least more than the current bid price ($22.72).

The case is not authentic, not even close. I sold a mandolin for a friend several years ago on eBay. An early 30's F2 that Mandolin Brothers sold with a Loar case in poor condition. The bidding war at the end of the auction took me totally by surprise. It was really for the case. I didn't know what it was or I would have separated the two.

**JeffD** · Aug-24-2011, 5:00pm

It seems to have taken a heck of a wack on the treble side of the bridge, pushing it to the edge of the bass F hole.

**Spruce** · Aug-24-2011, 5:24pm

Originally Posted by mrmando

Jamie Curtis built an H5 with a walnut back that sounds amazing...

I'm not positive it's walnut, but it sure looks like it to me....

**mrmando** · Aug-24-2011, 5:41pm

The case looks a lot like the cases used for Gibson EM200s in the mid to late 60s...

**John Kinn** · Aug-24-2011, 5:42pm

Works great against scroll envy!

**Bill Snyder** · Aug-24-2011, 6:14pm

For posterity.

**Charlieshafer** · Aug-24-2011, 6:31pm

Originally Posted by Spruce

I'm not positive it's walnut, but it sure looks like it to me....

Has to be; we just got in a bunch of walnut with almost identical figure. Now the fun part is is it Claro, or English. We've had both with that same figure and graining.

**Glassweb** · Aug-24-2011, 6:47pm

ouch!

**Ken Waltham** · Aug-24-2011, 7:21pm

Should make nice kindling come October.....

**jim simpson** · Aug-24-2011, 9:15pm

Wow, the price has exceeded $1000.00 with days to go till the end. Do you suppose bidders are thinking it's the real thing?

This listing probably violates Ebay policy.