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    Default 16/16 intro chords

    Does anybody have some good "grips" they can share for the opening chords to 16/16.
    Specifically a way to tie in this passage in a coherent way:

    Gmi F#+ Gmi/F Em7(b5) Cmi7 D7 Gmi


    Any help much appreciated!

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    Default Re: 16/16 intro chords

    I don't know the song and I can't find it on YouTube by that title, but I would probably just go: x51x x41x x31x x21x 313x 545x 0013 for those changes you list. You could stick a 7th fret on the G string in with those first three and play 0210 for the Em7b5 if you want, but those double stops give you plenty of the feel of the chords.
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    Default Re: 16/16 intro chords

    Perry I think you can grab 'em several ways, just look up the chords
    in a good chord book. I start that part with a Gmi played 7-8-10-x
    and walk down.

    For anyone interested in all the chords, goes something like this:

    The first part is Bflat/D7/Gmi .....Bflat/D7/ Eflat maj7th.... then, kinda walks down (the part Perry asked about): Gmi/ Fsharp /F /Emi7thflat5 / Cmi7 / D7 / Gmi..... That all repeats

    Then what I consider the blowing, or 2nd part.....it alternates between Eflat maj7 and Dmi7
    4 measures each, repeat 3 times........then 4 measures of Cmi and close it out with 4 measures of D7
    Repeat until the head and solos are over......

    Close it out with the first part again. This is a great jamming tune......took me awhile to get the
    right kind of rhythm groove going in the blowing. For me it is hard to play it as fast as the DGQ, those guys really can burn it.......there is a somewhat slower version on "So What" the Grisman-Garcia CD, that is fun to jam along with.

    This is in Grisman's Homespun lesson book & CD's. There are chord charts in there & David talks you through it on the CD. Get it right from the Dawg himself. And you can play along with David, Mike & Rob on the instructional CD too.

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    Default Re: 16/16 intro chords

    Thanks guys.

    Jim those double stops were just what I was looking for. That descending line thing which Dawg mentions and it does sound similar to what you've listed above.

    Arthur - yes I have the Dawg series; I did not remember him getting into much detail on 16/16. But I just listened to it. Thanks for reminding me about that.

    He does discuss the intro a bit. No chord diagrams but spells out how he does the Ebmaj9 chord:

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    He does some nice comping on what he calls the bridge (the blowing section) but does not go into too much detail. He does mention that he sometimes substitutes Bb for Eb and Am7 for Dm7.

    For improvising he states he uses these notes for the Ebmaj7 chord:

    Eb F G A Bb C D (the notes of a G minor scale)

    And these notes for Dm7:

    D E F G A Bb C D

    I like to add the Mike Marshall chromatic arpeggio for the C minor chord:

    C D Eb G C D Eb G

    Dawg also does a cool demonstration on bluegrass vs. samba bass lines on his mandolin.


    Thanks again!
    Perry

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    What a great tune to vamp rhythm for. In an old MWN, Mike Marshall laid out several chord shapes for all those chords, must have been 8 shapes for D9 alone. From memory:

    2-4-3-0
    2-2-3-5
    5-4-3-5
    5-4-7-5

    My prob is no pickers to play it with :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanN View Post
    What a great tune to vamp rhythm for. In an old MWN, Mike Marshall laid out several chord shapes for all those chords, must have been 8 shapes for D9 alone.
    Do you know who was on the cover of that particular MWN? I do have several issues up in my attic somewhere.

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    I believe Mike hisownself was on the cover of that issue, holding a Monteleone.

    And he includes the great Janice shape for the MAJ7/9 (likely invented by Dawg, certainly popularized by him):

    8-5-8-10

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    It's actually in Summer, 1980 issue. Mike has 11 shapes for a D9.

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