Ok, Cold frosty morning won over Bill Cheatham. It's a nice tune and I'm looking forward to play it. It's quite easy to get the hang of, I think. I even have a better mic now so it'll be much more fun recording.
Does anyone need the tab? There's a quite simple version at Mandozine.
I'll need to hear some finished verions of this for sure, never heard this before( at least in title)
Suzi, which of the 4 mandozines do you prefer?
Those are intermediate tabs, hopefully Craig will post a "beginner" version.
2001 Flatiron F5
it would be nice to hear a recording of it but i can't seem to find one doing a search on google. does anyone have it on a cd?
Everybody has to believe in something, and I believe I'll have another beer.
I've just learned Cold Frosty Morning from this midi file I found a here -Bluegrass Midis
It's a full arrangement so I think it needs to be edited to be used for learning the tune. Anyway it's the only one I can find! Hope it helps.
I'll upload my attempt when I've got it up to a decent tempo.
Roger - fiddlegit
I've played two versions, but I prefer the one named Cold Frosty Morning1, the one with a lot of 16th notes. It looks mighty difficult but it isn't, just don't look at them as 16th notes, actually it's just like playing 4th and 8th notes, see the 8th notes as 4th notes and the 16th notes as 8th notes and play them as if they were, because the timing difference is the same.
There are two versions by Stangeland that are ok as well, they have a triplet in both versions but if you play two 8th notes instead, it's not hard.
It's listed as intermediate at Mandozine, but it's way easier than for example Sally Gooding was, I see these versions I mentioned as quite beginner-friendly, I haven't found any easier versions, in fact I don't find this tune anywhere else at all. But if anyone can find an easier version, it'd be great to have it posted in the files section in the Yahoo group. I'm not sure Craig is online or has time to deal with it right now, as he hasn't been here for a long time. Also, last time, he needed help to get beginner tabs and midi files so I don't know if he has this one.
If you use tabledit, you can listen to it there, without back-up, it's very clear there.
Go to Cold Frosty Morning. In Tabledit you can also slow it down.
Hey All,
There is a Tom Rozum version in 4/4 time (instead of 2/4) that is mostly eighths however it does have some hammer ons and pull offs and slides. Nice tune. I have it in tef format. Might be a good opportunity to work on those techniques.
Take Care! -Ed-
I'm gonna 'sit out' this month, as I did a recording of Cold Frosty Morning a while back.
But, I'll post mine anyways just to get the ball rolling. I did a straightforward version of it, from The Fiddler's Fakebook. Perhaps it will help some folks get the gist of the tune.
- Benig
Jay Buckey has a good version of Cold Frosty Morning. #I don't know if it is available as a free download right now or not. #The songs change periodically, but it's available as part of one of his books or "ebooks". #He has mp3 versions that have mandolin (or other instruments) isolated on the right or left side so that you can turn them off and play along solo with the "band".
Another song with a Celtic flavor that is very similar to Cold Frosty Morning is Rakes of Kildare. #I have Jay's version of that one also. #It's pretty much the same tune, but with emphasis on the up beats instead of the downbeats and a less syncopated Celtic rhythm.
I've sat out ever since the first one (been way too busy), but I've wanted to learn this one ever since downloading Buckey's tunes. I'll try to learn it and record it this time.
Really? I looked for it at Jay Buckey's site but didn't find it.
That Rozum's version is more difficult than the other versions and definitely no beginner version. I still vote for the one I mentioned, for the beginners.
Sorry, I went back and looked for it too. I can't find it now either. I didn't look through all the Tables of Contents on his instructional packages, but it is likely in one of those.Originally Posted by (Bluegrasstjej @ Aug. 03 2004, 18:25)
For what it's worth, I recommend his stuff. If you're like me and don't get to play with other people much, it's really nice to have music to play along with. Of course, you can slow down the mp3's w/WMP, etc. to make the learning easier if needed.
Bluegrasstjej
Just followed the link from your site and discovered the mandolin web ring. Cool! There goes more of my practice time. I keep telling myself that I should be using the time I spend on this site practicing, but self does not listen well.
Pat
You can find samples of the Fuzzy Mountain String Band HERE, including a decent bit of Frosty Morning. This is a great album to have in any collection, by the way. No mandolin, to my recollection, but plenty of great old-time tunes from young fogeys back in the late 60's and 70's.
-Phil
Oh, I certainly have the same problem myself!!!!!!!!
benignus,
beautiful recording of CFM! never heard this song before myself, so i've got nothing to compare it to. but, you've sure done it justice in my mind.
know i've said this before, but love the tone you're capturing with your mando!
cheers,
craig
Hey thanks, craig. It's an old recording done back in Janurary, I think. I really posted it in response the comments about people never having heard how the tune goes. I thought my recording might help folks out by way of example.
I find the song to be fairly easy, though at the time I was teetering on the very edge of my ability to play it at that tempo.
Since it's August, shouldn't we really be working on Warm Lazy Summer Evening?
- Benig
Yep I vote that Benig re-records another slightly slower clear version with no backup! LOL! Then we'll use our slowdowners to force feed our mandos bit by bit.
Dang I would sit out on this one, but hate to waste a month without the push/shove this group gives me.Mark
2001 Flatiron F5
Benig, how on earth do you do it?
Laid back, yet stringent and driving, and every single note ringing out clear!
Just one word comes to my mind: YES!
Søren
Benig, that's awesome - as usual. You inspired me to go ahead and make my attempt this month. I won't compare to yours, but it's a cool song. I'm working on learning it on mando & guitar. Don't know how it will turn out, but it'll be fun.
Again, yours is awesome. I have neglected the project site as well the last couple of months, and I missed some of your others recordings that are not up anymore. Dang it!
I've just uploaded my recording of Cold Frosty Morning. Like last month, I used the bowlback again. It's a nice tune, and I found it pretty easy to get the hang of. I played it through a few times to practice, and then recorded it first take. I could probably smoothen it up a bit with repeated recordings, but I'm resonably happy with how it came out (except for the fluffed note with the pinky).
As I got CFM down so quickly, I made use of the time to record and upload a version of Fisher's Hornpipe as well. I'm less happy with that one and I think it's a much harder tune. In particular I don't seem to be able to inject a decent hornpipe bounce into this tune. I don't normally have that much problems with hornpipes (I love to play The Ruby and Dermot Gregan's Hornpipe), but this one didn't get all that fluent. Still, it's on the Yahoo site now -- all comments (good and bad) welcome, as usual!
Martin
If anyone has back issue of MANDOCRUCIAN'S DIGEST #4 (Dave Pegg of Fairport Convention/Jethro Tull, and Kenny Baker interviews), there is a "clawhammer mandolin" arrangment in notation/tab for this tune.
"Clawhammer" mando style uses a lot of across-the strings playing, and hammer-ons and pull-offs producing a a sound similar to clawhammer banjo. #Sorta of like crosspicking, but the rolls are different. #Andy Irvine said that his playing was influenced by OT banjo players, and I always thought (long before I ever read that)that there was an overlapping between his approach and "clawhammer mandolin"
(Andy Irvine interviewed in the last, #27 issue, of The Digest. Glad I was finally able to interview one of my early mando favorites)
Sorry, not able to post any sound samples. #Anyway, this is a very different way of apporaching old-time tunes which a very self-sufficient sound (you don't have to have a guitar playing beneath you).
Niles H.
Catalog of instructional books/CDs, Mandocrucian's Digest issues, etc.
Niles interviewed
"Free your mind, your hands will follow." "It was a new day yesterday, but it's an old day now."
where we get the tab for that Warm Lazy Summer Evening song anyways? Sounds right up my alley...
Look up (to see whats comin down)
Martinjonas,
Your version of CFM is really nice - where did you find it? Or did you improvise one yourself??
I recognize that sound of a bowlback (ugh, sounds like a spider or something) for sure! I have one too, I bought it at the bluegrass festival for a friend and she hasn't picked it up yet. Not that a bowlback is very bluegrassy, but this guy who sells instruments go to every bluegrass festival in the area (not that they're many - there are two bg festivals at reasonable distance) and can bring with him any instrument people are interested in (if they have strings).
I think you do a good job on Fisher's hornpipe too. It's a hard tune. I wanted to learn that version too, because I like the way it increases difficulty. But I could never remember when to do what, so I did the version I've played before, from the mandolin picker's fakebook. I think I'll learn this one too, you get me inspired..
Susanne --
Thanks for your kind words! #That version of CFM is one of the TablEdit files from Co-Mando (Mandozine now, I guess), with the remark "Tabledited by Mike Stangeland". #It falls under the fingers really nicely and I found it fun and easy to learn.
I've listened to my MP3 of Fisher's Hornpipe a few times now, and am a bit happier now than I was when I posted it. #It was a torment to record, because I kept messing up the long runs of eighths with the not-quite-repetitions, but the end product is sort-of ok after all.
What kind of bowlback do you have? #Is it an antique one or newly-built? #I'm currently going off on a bit of a tangent from my previous playing, because I just love playing this old Italian bowlback. #I notice, however, that it changes my playing style and it's really difficult to pick up the Washburn after this.
Martin
(Just have to record Cattle In The Cane now for the complete set).
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