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    How do you pronounce the word Luthier? I have heard it pronounced two different ways with the H and without.

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    always with the H.

    Like Martin Luther with an extra I
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    I just found a Merriam Webster online dictionary that has an auditory pronunciation. They say lutier as in Lute.

    I was watching a video somewhere of a guitar builders manufacturing process and they said luthier without the H, so I looked it up in the dictionary and they say it was derived from the word lute and the pronunciatiation was loot ier.

    I was just watching a video of David Harvey and he said luthier with an H.

    I have always pronounced it with an H also. How about the rest of you guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by (martinedwards @ May 21 2008, 07:10)
    Like Martin Luther...
    Or like the other iconoclast with the same surname, Lex.



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    Derivation is from french for 'lute maker' and from what I've always known, its sort of a cross between LU-tier and 'LU-thier' The t is present, but subdued, a cross between t and th

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    I just looked it up in the 1968 big library style dictionary here at work. Lüd-ier is the pronunciation it gave. Must change over time.
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    Get the H out!

    Looty-er.


    Kinda reminds me of the discussions on ukulele boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (martinedwards @ May 21 2008, 10:10)
    always with the H.

    Like Martin Luther with an extra I
    Ach du lieber! Martin Luther is German, no H!

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    Ba de, ba de luuth er, a de lute er, ba de, loot er, a de Bill-der.... Whew! - Porky Pig.

    I pronounce it "looth' ee er"

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    Great, now I can't say it at all!! looofer..lofee er... luthpferer geez!
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    My kid pronounced "loser" the same way when he lost his two front teeth.
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    If you are in the good old USA then the H is pronounced ,I live almost on the Canadian border in Vermont and some freinds of mine who build and are French Canadian do not pronounce the H .But then they don't pronounce the H in any of their words .Maybe the dictionary is using the old French or Europeon original pronunciations .

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    This pretty slick on-line pronunciation engine concurs with several posts above: it is pronounced with a TH in US English, and for those speaking French, German, and UK English, the H is silent. (BTW, of all the pronunciations I listened to, it sounded nicest to my ears when spoken by Julie in French
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    Man, why can't those guys just be Presbyterian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by (jimmacd @ May 22 2008, 03:22)
    Quote Originally Posted by (martinedwards @ May 21 2008, 07:10)
    Like Martin Luther...
    Or like the other iconoclast with the same surname, Lex.
    Isn't that the guy who makes bridge saddles out of kryptonite? Used to see him lurking on the builder's forum.

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    That's him -- but I heard that one of his clients was not impressed with its less-than-super performance.
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    Reminds me of the discussion at work the other day on the correct way to pronounce "General Tso's chicken"!
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    In french , we say simply ..... luthier !!!
    we don't prononce the H , just the T ,
    if this word is prononced by americans people , it sound to me like "lou cier" or something like that .

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    Being American and tending to pronounce words the way they look, I pronounce the th and say LUTHier.

    But I think Martin Luther's name in Germany is pronounced Luter, not Luther. Also, it seems possible that he was not descended from luthiers, but that his surname was originally Luder. Folk etymology may suggest a derivation there from the Latin word Ludi, meaning play (and the first half of Ludicrous, as the Nebraska state poet Bill Kloefkorn told me).

    In French, as we've been told, more like Luter. Also in Hebrew.

    I wonder why so many languages find that TH sound so hard to say. Seems easy to me.

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