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    Players partial to souped-up vintage reproductions or the inventive spirit of Rigel will be pleased to learn that Rigel’s founding luthier, Pete Langdell, is still building heirloom quality mandolins and guitars in Vermont. Proof arrived here 2 weeks ago in the form of a cylinderback mandola commissioned last December, about a year after I was stunned by the sound of Jimmy Gaudreau’s cylinderback at a concert. Although a little hesitant to place an order so soon after Rigel’s production shutdown last summer, I found Pete receptive to undertaking a new project from scratch while moving forward with his instrument restoration practice. Although a time-consuming year of transition for Pete pushed the delivery schedule back a little, I feel fortunate to have received a custom piece from such an accomplished builder within 8 months. Given Pete’s current interest in returning to instrument construction as his core business, now is the time to get in high on a new order list of custom instruments under either the PE Langdell or Rigel name. No one should go bargain hunting though; this is truly custom work from the hands of a master.

    As a studio woodworker myself, I really appreciate the fine handicraft on display in the mandola—sensuous lines, crisp details, flawless execution of complex geometry, and rich maple figure. It’s the voice, though, that takes center stage—the ringing trebles of a harp and resounding basses of a little dreadnought. I think the plangent tone reflects more than just an oval hole. In Pete’s take on the classic Vega CB, the acoustics benefit from an increased scale length (~17 inches versus 15 inches), a slightly canted (creased) top, and a carved (not pressed or laminated) back that needs no bracing (the old Vegas rely on heavy back bracing).

    There’s no doubt then that I’m taken with the mandola, but what does that really say about its quality? Having spent most of my life playing other instruments, how much do I truly know about the proper sound of a mando? Would seasoned professionals share my enthusiasm for Pete’s CB? Fortunately, four of my favorite pickers living in the DC area have already test-driven the new arrival and have offered some favorable comments. Jimmy G. came by to check out the near-twin of his Rigel CB, which provided the specs for my instrument. He played a little jazz piece that startled me with its reedy basses. His occasional duo partner Orrin Star (my teacher) took a different tack during a recent session by cutting loose on the CB with some jaunty fiddle tunes. Admittedly, these guys can make anything ordinary sound heroic. Even so, I was delighted to hear the rich tone coming out of that rippled soundbox. Finally, I was able to gauge the CB in a full-band jam that included Danny Knicely and Tara Linhardt, superb performers who traded the mandola back and forth throughout a string of traditional tunes. I was surprised how strongly the CB rang out in the mix. And I had thought a mandola would be lost in the shuffle!

    It’s time for a few pictures. As a new poster on the board here, I’m not sure whether my first attempt at putting up photos will succeed, but here goes:
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    Pete is one of those luthiers who explore the depths of the vintage gems--the Lyon & Healys, the D’Angelicos, and the Vegas—not only to restore them but also to take dimensions for reproductions that exceed the sound quality and longevity of the originals. With the Vega CB in particular, I don’t know of anyone else who’s working in this tradition—what David Grisman has called a transitional form between bowlbacks and archtops. (For an eloquent overview of the subject, check out the benchmark article written by occasional Café contributor Bob DeVellis-- bellsouthpwp.com/r/d/rdevelli/Vega%20307%20Mandola.htm.) One look at the heaving back carved from a 3-inch-thick figured slab reveals why this design could be daunting to any luthier. It’s actually harder than the photo suggests because the width of the sides, even from the points to the tailpiece, is subtly changing all the way down.
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    In the trade, the type of bubble figure on display here is sometimes called “shell” or “blister” maple. The appearance of the finished wood is like globules in an emulsion.
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    I wanted a black face for high contrast with the sides, even though the Engelmann top was flawless in the white. I was tempted to keep the whole instrument pale, as in the prefinish stage, but Pete reminded me that clear lacquer turns yellow in a fairly short time. Note in the photo here that the ~1-mm pickguard rests on the top rather than lying within a recess. Flush pickguards set into weakened tops are the notorious Achilles heel of the old Vega CBs.
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    Classic understatement.
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    Yowzah!

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    Pete's work is fabulous, and I'm glad to see him get some recognition on the site. Keep up the spectacular work Pete!

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    It's a beauty. Any sound clips?
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    I'm glad to see Pete is doing some great stuff. He is a great man and a great luthier. The instrument is beautiful!
    Have a Great Day!
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    David and Pete,
    Wowza indeed! That is a wonderful looking instrument. Very classy and I love that Pete found a way to prevent the top from sinking. Stunning woods and beautifully executed. Great photos and review! Thanks for posting this gem.

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    Gosh she's a beauty!!!! My wife is getting jealous of all of the mandolins that I can't stop staring at
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    I own 2, maybe 3 instruments that have benefited from the hands of Peter Langdell:
    My Rigel Jethro- still getting stronger from a strong start, and a very stable instrument.
    my Epiphone Strand that I got from Peter Mix- and I kind of assume Peter had a hand in the fix ups before I got it. It's wonderful, sounding somewhere between the Gibson A4 and Lyon & Healy in tone.
    My "Nobility" mandolin- Nobility is the name on it but I have seen an SS Stewart that was made exactly the same- real maker unknown. Peter took it apart and rebraced it, turning it into a a powerful old oval hole with great bass and singing sweet trebles. One day I might get it refinished. It's as ugly as it is sweet.
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    Thanks for your gracious replies, Jamie and all. I'm sure Pete will appreciate the kind words, especially from fellow craftsmen Hans and Big Joe, as well as old Rigel customers like Nebo. I'm a Rigel owner as well. Steve, if I can figure out an easy way to post a sound clip, I'll do it.
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    Okay, I'm jealous. I've wanted one of those things since the day I learned about them. Wow... Congratulations!

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    Awesome !
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    <whew!> That is a beautiful mandolin. Very nice.
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    No surprises here....flawless!
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    love it !
    and now you have the chance to buy a cylinderback mando that hasn´t a sunken top !
    maybe you can post a soundclip ?
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    My God that's fantastic! The design of that mandolin style is perfectly proportioned to start with, but yours just looks amazing. (Let's see, what could I sell or trade? LOL)

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    A truly awesome piece of work. Welcome back Pete. I got to play one of Pete's Cylinder Back mandolins a few years ago. If I had the money spare I'd have taken it there and then.
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    I also played Jimmy G's some years ago- a truly wonderful mandola. I ended up with a vintage 10-string Vega (from trevor, no less).

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    Many thanks for all the high compliments. I'm sure Pete will take them to heart.

    There's one other thing that I want to add about mandola scale length that's been tossed around previously at the cafe. Prospective mandola layers used to the standard mandolin scale may be a little intimidated (at least I was) at the thought of adding 3 inches to the fretboard, especially when one can get by with a 1- to 1 1/2-inch increase. Pete's view is that the longer 16 7/8-inch scale allows the player to use lighter gauge strings, which he thinks best suit a resonant top. I'm happy to report that the long scale seems quite manageable--a little less congested even--and the light-gauge strings produce a surprisingly robust sound.
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    NICE!
    Great photos Woody.
    It appears that P.E. Langdell is a name to watch for in the future.

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    Beautiful instrument "Woody". I have also played Jimmy's CB a few years back and loved it. Did Jimmy's have the same length scale as your new one?
    I have an older Flatiron (Army-Navy style) mandola built back in the early 80's and it has the ~15" scale. It has decent tone and was affordable at the time.
    Danny and Tara are good friends of mine, so maybe I'll see your mandola at a jam sometime! It is definely a stunning instrument.

    Jeff

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    Phil, MandoSquirrel, Altair, Trevor, mandolooter, flatiron, and all the rest--your generous responses are truly appreciated. Maybe I'll get to meet you one day.

    Sounds as though a number of folks live or have contacts here in the DC area. BTW, Jimmy G. out in northern VA was the person who first tuned me in to your music, Dan. Torch & Fire, which is tooling along this very minute on our CD player, is one of our favorite albums. Jeff, you're lucky to be good friends with Tara and Danny--she the solid player and lively spirit, and Danny--well, as someone has else said, he's so good it's almost scary. I hope I run into you sometime at one of their gatherings.
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