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    Just got my copy in from Elderly (along with some odds and ends I needed)-- great stuff Dan, and some very tasty picking on track 11 (listening to it now) by Craig.

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    Thanks Rick, Craig's my favorite picking buddy.
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    I can see why!

    Hey, but has HE picked with you in the glass vestibule at Gruhn's in Nashville? Ha, that was fun!

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    heh, actually Chipper did that with me last time I was there

    The mandolin Craig plays on track 11 was one I played in the glass vestibule at Gruhn's last time I was there, so there's at least some kind of indirect link there eh? Surprised you didn't mention the second tune on track 2.. didn't Dugger name that one for you?



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    Hahahaha!

    Dang, another Near Brush with Greatness...

    Yeah, Mike did name that one for me though I didn't want to be tacky and mention that. It's a great tune and I love playing it, but it's one of those deals where I can't really start it in a session-- but I'll pile in if someone else does. That third part is fun, and the chords on the CD are cool.

    I get up to Gruhn's a couple times a year, I bought my National from them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by (Rick C. @ April 06 2007, 16:37)
    Just got my copy in from Elderly (along with some odds and ends I needed)-- great stuff Dan, and some very tasty picking on track 11 (listening to it now) by Craig.

    Rick
    Thanks for that Rick...!

    That was a great tune set to record... I remember how we put that set together. I was visiting Dan at his house in the country and the weather was absolutely perfect. (There were a few pints on the table...mmmm) We were sitting outside on his patio pickin' and I started that tune. At the time Dan was into playing this 5 course Vega Mandolin and started putting that awesome backup line together. (He had it after like 2 times through...grumble...). So then he says.. ."play one in G" as we're coming to the end of the 4th part 3rd time (or so) through. That Fahey's tune popped into my head and we dove in. Brilliant. Dminor to Gmajor. Just fits so well.

    We recorded it the next day when we were back in London.

    Thanks again!
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    Excellent!

    Are you both using the .72 Clayton Ultem triangle picks? #Your attacks sound very similar when you're playing together.

    #That was my favorite mando pick for years but I've had to take a different approach with the National, makes notes on the E string sound too metallic, so I've been using a variety of thinner picks and using a lighter touch with it. #Still haven't decided which one I like best, depends on the day.




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    Quote Originally Posted by (Rick C. @ April 08 2007, 22:24)
    Excellent!

    Are you both using the .72 Clayton Ultem triangle picks? Your attacks sound very similar when you're playing together.

    That was my favorite mando pick for years but I've had to take a different approach with the National, makes notes on the E string sound too metallic, so I've been using a variety of thinner picks and using a lighter touch with it. Still haven't decided which one I like best, depends on the day.
    Yeah. It's a symbiotic relationship. I steal Picks from Dan and he teaches me. Works well.... wait....

    I've taken to sanding down the 72s a bit...to make them thinner...this may sound strange.. but they "don't make 'em like they used to..." I've found that they are not as consistent in feel due to variations in thickness. In general I think that they're thicker now. Nothing a bit of sanding can't cure.

    The material (whatever the heck it's made of) is the real magic. I think it gives a natural sound and feel (after I work it a bit) and it allows me to get the attack that Dan and I are fond of.

    That being said, I've always got a few around that I've worked to various thicknesses ("stock" 072 being the thickest). It depends on the mood and the instrument. Although, I won't use that pick at all on a tenor banjo, too much horsepower. There I prefer the Nylon standard 068.

    Change picks often when practicing I say. It gets you thinking about right hand technique. But always have a "homebase" pick to return to.

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    Thanks Craig,

    I don't feel quite so badly now, but it does bug me that one day a certain pick is The Bomb, and the next day I hate it. #At last night's local session I used 4 different ones and didn't really like ANY of them! #I like the Clayton white .50 on the National, but with my dry hands it's hard to hold onto. #Sanding it didn't help all that much, and I don't have time to be sanding picks! #The Ultem .56 triangles give a nice bright sound, but my triplets aren't as clean with them.

    But I guess this is straying off the topic of the CD. Great playing all around, cool tune choices, mando porn on the cover-- but it's disturbing because it points out areas of Suckness in my own playing. #Those tight, clean triplets on the low G are disgusting. #Shame on you both.


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