Three sides (as opposed to three two-sided records). Early 78s often had a different artist on each side. Some of Abt's mandolin recordings had a cornet solo on the flip side.Originally Posted by (JimD @ Mar. 13 2007, 12:18)
Three sides (as opposed to three two-sided records). Early 78s often had a different artist on each side. Some of Abt's mandolin recordings had a cornet solo on the flip side.
Simultaneous posting, Neil. Thanks for corroborating my list.
Jim
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Thanks Neil and Jim.
and yes, Jim, I did notice the mp3 you posted--thanks for that too.
Would it be greedy to ask you to post the Indianola Patrol too?
I have a kind of strange interest in "patrols". They are a bizarre episode in the history of American music. I am doing some research involving them now -- I'll report on that sometime. It's a by-product of my performances of 19th and early 20th century American music.
Jim -- I just noticed that you said you "know of" the Indianola Patrol -- not that you have a copy.
Does anyone?
Jim - It's the third selection on this stream of an old time record radio show:
http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/21306
"I thought I knew a lot about music. Then you start digging and the deeper you go, the more there is."~John Mellencamp
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And JimD may also have been using Sibelius on his computer, in which case he only needed to play the notes on a midi keyboard and they showed up on the page in music. My son does that for me with music I can't read, then clicks on Mandolin Tablature, and there it is, ready for me to play. It's great, but it takes a while to learn, and it's expensive.
Actually, I use Finale -- but I don't use the midi transcription method -- it isn't accurate enough for my purposes. I figure out the notes and rhythms by ear and then use step entry to put it into notation. One hand on the midi keyboard to select the pitches and one hand on the computer keyboard to select the rhythms.
Once you get used to this way of working it is much faster (and more accurate) than the other method.
I have a 78 of him playing the Sugarplum Two-Step, which contains one part in tango time. It's a very cool piece of music, and has harp guitar accompaniment. On the flipside is the Azalea Waltz.
Pietro Deiro was a very intriguing guy, assuming you are interested in accordion. He and his brother Guido were from San Francisco. Pietro was the true pioneer of the piano accordion and made the first recordings ever on it. Guido played buttons. The Fratelli Deiro often worked as a duo.
Are you sure that recording of Sugar Plum Two-Step is by Dr. Clarence Penney? I have a recording of that piece with harp guitar but the mandolinist is Samuel Siegel on Columbia label. I find no listing of Penney having played that one but a few versions of Siegel including this one on Gregg Miner's harp guitar site.
Jim
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My 78's are a bit hard to access right now, but I'll make an effort to unearth it. Maybe I am completely confused. I found it at the Orthopedic Thrift, a rummage shop in Port Townsend, Washington (where Christopher Knutsen built his first harp guitars) around 1976, learned the tune, and put it away.
Columbia was famous for slapping labels on recordings that focused on different markets, but if that's what happened here, it would a bit odd. I'm more used to seeing even blue wax Columbias with a Yiddish label and a Greek label and a Hungarian label - same music by the same players, just different demographics for the sales. The Siegel item on Gregg's site is certainly the same recording.
There was a great little store in Greenwich Village until maybe the 1980s called Pietro Deiro Music that I used to go to. I believe that Pietro also published music for the accordion as did O. Pagani on Bleecker who also published arrangements of Italian and other music for mandolins and guitar.
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Jim is correct, Sugar Plum was recorded by Samuel Siegel. It was probably his most popular record, based on the fact that it is now the most common and easiest to find. The Library of Congress, alone, has about 10 copies of it! (I used to work in the record collection there.)Are you sure that recording of Sugar Plum Two-Step is by Dr. Clarence Penney? I have a recording of that piece with harp guitar but the mandolinist is Samuel Siegel on Columbia label.
Here is the full recording (mp3) of Samuel Siegel playing the Sugar Plum Two Step.
Pardon the noise on this one. I had a friend transfer it to digital without any noise reduction.
Jim
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Brentrup A4C -- 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin -- 1904 Embergher Type 3 -- 1937 Gibson L-Century -- 1939 Gibson L-00 -- ca. 1890s Celebrated Benary Banjo -- 1985 Monteleone Grand Artist Mandola
Jim--Thanks for that mp3.
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