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    Quote Originally Posted by zoukboy View Post
    Is this too far off topic?
    Nah, that is fine IMHO. I agree with Schlegel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoukboy View Post
    Is this too far off topic?
    Nope, looks a lovely instrument to me: can you tell us something about it?

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    Having just gotten back from this instrument's birthplace, Crete, I can tell you it is a Greek laouto. Its owner, of course, can say more on this specific instrument. For me, this us just another fantasy ;-)

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    Victor is correct! It's a Kritiki laouto made in Athens by Dimitris Rapakousios. The bowl is rosewood and mahogany. Spruce top. I tune mine a little eccentrically, with the highest course tuned down from E4 to D4 and doubled an octave lower at D3.

    So the tuning is, from "bass" to treble: G2G3 D2D3 A2A3 D3D4

    The body is quite deep to support the low tuning. The sound is huge and it is much fun to play.

    I can't recommend Dimitris and his instruments highly enough. Absolutely first rate craftsmanship and sound and he is great to work with (NFI by way).
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    Victor - I am jealous you just got back from Kriti. It's been 9 years since I was there and I miss it almost every day!
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    Dimitris also makes mandolins. I'm receiving this one for a student next week and will give a report.

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    Here is his website: Dimitris Rapakousios

    Roger: I am esp interested in custom cases byGiannis Seremetis. Have you seen any of them? Any idea of cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoukboy View Post
    Dimitris also makes mandolins. I'm receiving this one for a student next week and will give a report
    Interesting - are those tied on frets?

    IMO there aren't enough of them either

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    For anyone looking for a decent vintage bowlback this style 2 Vega might be a good bet. I have a style 3 that is one of my best sounding ones. If there are any serious issues with this style 2, the seller offers 100% satisfaction guarantee. NFI on my part as always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavy View Post
    Might be worth the bid if low enough for those bone button tuners. Otherwise...?? I do like the eccentric scratchplate shape, tho.
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    Jim: have seen a few and they are sturdy. No idea of the cost, though.
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    Yes. Black nylon monofilament. It really makes for a sweet sound.
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    I have only seen a handful of Stathopoulo's bowlback instruments. Here is a bouzouki up for auction. Too bad that rosette is broken. It looks like it may need a some restoration work and the seller says it was over-finished, looks like that included the fretboard. I would not be surprised if the neck either had warpage or needed a reset (or both).



    I just looked at the post and at the additional photo below and the neck definitely needs a reset -- the seller says height in the middle of the fretboard is 1/4". It also looks like the neck joint might have been messed with previously. This will need considerable work. Then again it is a rare instrument. Many of his often have multi-ply laminated necks but this one looks like one piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    I have only seen a handful of Stathopoulo's bowlback instruments. Here is a bouzouki up for auction. Too bad that rosette is broken. It looks like it may need a some restoration work and the seller says it was over-finished, looks like that included the fretboard. I would not be surprised if the neck either had warpage or needed a reset (or both).
    With a neck that long on a std bowlback body, I'm not surprised the whole thing has pulled forward!

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    Nice looking ceccherini 10 string bowl on ebay UK:

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    Same seller (is this the cafe's own trebbleclef??) also has an A Savlino "Student of Vinaccia" bowl for sale:

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    Probably a typo in the listing: A Salvino. I always enjoy that 'twisted' MOP inlay design around the sound hole.

    Here's a pretty clean photo of a Salvino label.

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    A nice pair of mandolins. I can't remember ever seeing this English-language label in a Ceccherini. (But the same UK agent we're used to, A. Voigt.) I wonder if it tells us anything about the instrument's date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Clausen View Post
    A nice pair of mandolins. I can't remember ever seeing this English-language label in a Ceccherini. (But the same UK agent we're used to, A. Voigt.) I wonder if it tells us anything about the instrument's date.
    Bruce, I have a number of Ceccherini mandolins in my files with whole or part English label language. Alban Voigt appears as agent on them as well. Unfortunately, I don't have a clean shot of any of those labels.

    Maybe Jim or Martin have better images. Or the OP can post a ideal shot.

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    Thanks, Mick. I've only seen the label in your second shot. Interesting that some have numbers, others not. (For the record, the ebay one has 2292.)

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    I did have a few examples of that same label. Here is one from a rather ornate mandolin.
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    Thanks, Jim, it is nice to get a complete view of this. I must say I enjoy these labels with their various signatures, stamps, embossings, numberings, stray marks, cross-outs, and additions.

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    Looks like it's "Vinaccia student week", all from the same seller:

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    Nice looking 1905 Fratelli Vinaccia on eBay. Lyre tailpiece. Looks in decent condition with some split in the bowl and piece broken off the end of the bridge.
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