Lyon & Healy: Interesting story

[Bob Visentin]

Found Craig's list

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/msg/6040500440.html

[MikeEdgerton]

When that was built Martin wasn't using labels, they imprinted their information on the back of the headstock or inside the instrument. Labels came much later.

[allenhopkins]

Wonder if this means that the practice of label counterfeiting started much earlier than we'd normally suspect?

Otherwise, why label a Lyon & Healy "Martin?"

[mrmando]

But the question is, Is it really a Lyon & Healy? At first glance I don't think it is.

[MikeEdgerton]

But the question is, Is it really a Lyon & Healy? At first glance I don't think it is.

Neither do I.

[MikeEdgerton]

Wonder if this means that the practice of label counterfeiting started much earlier than we'd normally suspect?

Otherwise, why label a Lyon & Healy "Martin?"

I don't think the label is that old. It's recent.

[Jeff Mando]

Recently, I went to 15 or so pawn shops one afternoon, just killing time looking at instruments. Hard to believe, but I saw both a counterfeit Taylor and a counterfeit Guild, both acoustic guitars and both had labels like this that looked like they printed them off a computer. Neither would fool an expert or even most people who have seen an original, but they ended up for sale at two different pawn shops, so someone was fooled! Both were recent bottom of the line imports with the correct peghead shapes.

In this case, they should have removed the label and just sold the mandolin on its own vintage merits. It is worth $150 to play music with. By leaving the label they have raised suspicion, making it harder to sell, and also showed their own stupidity, IMHO.

[darrylicshon]

It's been on Craigslist for awhile now , I have been seeing it pop up in my e-mails for sometime, didn't interest me enough to go see it, was hoping it might go down in price

[NEH57]

.......every tooth in Duluth, is Baby Ruth proof........

[brunello97]

Wouldn't be the worst way to spend $150 on a mandolin, though.

Mick

[Jim Garber]

Headstock says made by Regal to me.

What's the matter, no one wants to post a photo?

[brunello97]

Headstock says made by Regal to me.

What's the matter, no one wants to post a photo?

Agree on the Regal-ity, J.

That kind of bogus-labeling schtuff pixxes me off.

Mick

[Ausdoerrt]

Nothing about the above looks Lyon&Healy-ish to me. Looks similar to this, labelled Regal: https://antebelluminstruments.blogsp...-flatback.html


P.S. Was hoping for a cool story about finding/reviving an old L&H instrument. Kinda disappointed

[Timbofood]

Yep, sure looks "Regal" to me too.
"Interesting story" is an entertaining way to try to "set a hook" so to speak.

[MikeEdgerton]

Well, at least they didn't say it was a Larson.

[brunello97]

Well, at least they didn't say it was a Larson.

Ace.

Mick

[MikeEdgerton]

I am seriously considering going into the label business. It wouldn't even be hard if you can simply make up a label that doesn't look anything like any original label ever seen. Maybe if I could get a clean shot of the Jos. Bohmann label we could have a resurgence using all the no-name bowlbacks that are available. I could possibly become the world's greatest label maker.

[ollaimh]

it might be a larson! elmer larson!