Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 36

Thread: Broken Gibson headstock

  1. #1
    Moderator MikeEdgerton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Howell, NJ
    Posts
    26,874

    Default Broken Gibson headstock

    This should be interesting to watch.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-The-Gi...kAAOSwCU1YzbQO
    "It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
    --M. Stillion

    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
    --J. Garber

  2. The following members say thank you to MikeEdgerton for this post:


  3. #2
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    S.W. Wisconsin
    Posts
    7,507

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Hmmm, wonder how high this will go? Too bad someone didn't fix it years ago.
    THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE JUST FOR YOUR SMILE!

  4. #3
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    13,103

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Just needs an accompanying story saying it was smashed by Ira Louvin backstage at the Grand Ole Opry or something.
    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Lyon & Healy • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

  5. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to mrmando For This Useful Post:


  6. #4
    Mando-Accumulator Jim Garber's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Westchester, NY
    Posts
    30,753

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Strange seller's notes:
    100 YEAR PLUS OLD piece here. this listing is for the case ONLY. the headstock ONLYTHE CASE shown is listed in a separate sale, and was the case this mandolin came in. the case is only shown for reference. sold AS IS this listing os for the headstock ONLY
    Actually I did find the case in funky condition but figured the seller parted out the rest of this mandolin but I don't see any more parts.
    Jim

    My Stream on Soundcloud
    Facebook
    19th Century Tunes
    Playing lately:
    1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1

  7. #5
    Administrator Mandolin Cafe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 1998
    Location
    Lawrence, KS
    Posts
    3,835
    Blog Entries
    14

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Strange seller's notes....
    Nope.

    Better look again. See kids, let this be a lesson. This is what happens when you drink and eBay.

  8. The following members say thank you to Mandolin Cafe for this post:


  9. #6
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    S.W. Wisconsin
    Posts
    7,507

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Yup, a listing for each. The case is up to $1.00
    THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE JUST FOR YOUR SMILE!

  10. #7
    Registered User jim simpson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Wheeling, WV
    Posts
    5,508

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    I got this headstock as part of a project years ago and didn't have a need for it. I sold it and I suspect the buyer could have reused the inlay if carefully removed.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	The Gibson 01..jpg 
Views:	110 
Size:	144.5 KB 
ID:	155016  
    Old Hometown, Cabin Fever String Band

  11. #8
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Kernersville, NC
    Posts
    2,593
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    This should be interesting to watch.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-The-Gi...kAAOSwCU1YzbQO
    I'll forget to check later but am interested to see what it brings

  12. The following members say thank you to Mark Wilson for this post:


  13. #9
    acoustically inert F-2 Dave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Halfway, MO
    Posts
    2,128

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Umm, bad scroll repair. I'm out.
    "Mongo only pawn in game of life." --- Mongo

  14. #10

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Would make a really cool paperweight to go with my old roll top desk....................but at $153.50 with 5 days to go, it will go for more than the desk is worth!

  15. #11
    Registered User fscotte's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Zanesville, Ohio
    Posts
    2,490

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Probably need to replace the truss rod.

  16. #12
    acoustically inert F-2 Dave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Halfway, MO
    Posts
    2,128

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    What are the tuners worth?
    "Mongo only pawn in game of life." --- Mongo

  17. #13
    Moderator MikeEdgerton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Howell, NJ
    Posts
    26,874

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Quote Originally Posted by F-2 Dave View Post
    What are the tuners worth?
    You know, I'm really not sure. They certainly do have value but it isn't the same as the arrowhead ended tuners. If this was an F5 headstock the value would be 7 or 8 times what it is now. If they were Handel tuners the price would be up there as well. I don't recall seeing a plain set of F2/4 tuners tuners for sale. I'm sure they have been. That's pretty much what the bidding has to be for.
    "It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
    --M. Stillion

    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
    --J. Garber

  18. #14
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    S.W. Wisconsin
    Posts
    7,507

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    I don't know it might make a nice lamp.
    THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE JUST FOR YOUR SMILE!

  19. #15
    Adrian Minarovic
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Banska Bystrica, Slovakia, Europe
    Posts
    3,461

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    I wonder how much would it cost to have the rest built up by someone like Gilchrist.
    Adrian

  20. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to HoGo For This Useful Post:


  21. #16
    Moderator MikeEdgerton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Howell, NJ
    Posts
    26,874

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Quote Originally Posted by HoGo View Post
    I wonder how much would it cost to have the rest built up by someone like Gilchrist.
    Jurassic Mandolin?
    "It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
    --M. Stillion

    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
    --J. Garber

  22. #17
    Registered User Gary Hedrick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Martinsville, Indiana formerly of Brown County
    Posts
    1,377

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    You know, I'm really not sure. They certainly do have value but it isn't the same as the arrowhead ended tuners. If this was an F5 headstock the value would be 7 or 8 times what it is now. If they were Handel tuners the price would be up there as well. I don't recall seeing a plain set of F2/4 tuners tuners for sale. I'm sure they have been. That's pretty much what the bidding has to be for.
    Mike, the classifieds have a set for sale http://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/102992#102992

    and as Charles notes...these are more rare than the Handels....mid 1918 to somewhere mid 1923....

  23. #18
    Moderator MikeEdgerton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Howell, NJ
    Posts
    26,874

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    I can't remember seeing a lot of them for sale so they must be rare. Thanks.
    "It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
    --M. Stillion

    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
    --J. Garber

  24. The following members say thank you to MikeEdgerton for this post:


  25. #19
    wood butcher Spruce's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Orcas Island, Washington
    Posts
    6,172

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Quote Originally Posted by jim simpson View Post
    I got this headstock as part of a project years ago and didn't have a need for it. I sold it and I suspect the buyer could have reused the inlay if carefully removed.
    I've got plenty of "The Gibson" inlays if anyone really needs one...
    (Poorly cut to match the originals...)

    ...but, what this thread really points out is that mahogany is a lousy wood for a Gibson-style neck--guitar or mandolin...
    All those 'Burst breaks ($125K--gone!) and these examples really show that Leo and the Loars had it right--maple is the way to go....

  26. The following members say thank you to Spruce for this post:


  27. #20

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Quote Originally Posted by HoGo View Post
    I wonder how much would it cost to have the rest built up by someone like Gilchrist.
    Probably about $35K.......................

    Question is, would it be a restored Gibson or a Gil with a Gibson peghead grafted on?

    It would, however, take the concept of distressed/relic-ed instruments to another level -- I don't think I've seen a relic with an "intentional" headstock repair. That would lend credibility from the point of view of "who in their right mind would do such a thing?!!" -- therefore, it must be real.

    To take it one step further, kind of like "how much of a torn $20 bill is still legal tender?" Certainly, you can't spend both halves and get $40 worth of goods for the same $20! But, this is slightly different. Let's say you had the entire mandolin. You break it, and restore both halves and suddenly you have two vintage mandolins, right? The only question is the cost of doing so and how well it turns out. And, of course, integrity which may or may not figure into the situation.....
    Last edited by Jeff Mando; Mar-21-2017 at 1:27pm.

  28. #21
    Adrian Minarovic
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Banska Bystrica, Slovakia, Europe
    Posts
    3,461

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Mando View Post
    To take it one step further, kind of like "how much of a torn $20 bill is still legal tender?" Certainly, you can't spend both halves and get $40 worth of goods for the same $20! But, this is slightly different. Let's say you had the entire mandolin. You break it, and restore both halves and suddenly you have two vintage mandolins, right? The only question is the cost of doing so and how well it turns out. And, of course, integrity which may or may not figure into the situation.....
    I believe these things happened in top violin market when someone parted original Stradivari violin into two and mede the missing parts... I think someonbe later discovered them both and put the violin back together. There are still few "composite" Strads that only have some parts original and some parts of other old makers.
    Reminds me of the great-grandfathers favorite axe...
    Adrian

  29. #22
    Registered User John Soper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Durham, NC
    Posts
    1,356

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    I thought that this represented an extreme case of "parting out" an old mandolin. I'd hate to see the pick guard or tailpiece offering!

  30. #23
    Americanadian Andrew B. Carlson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Sherwood Park, AB
    Posts
    828

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    I watched this for awhile. I'd absolutely love a broken Gibson headstock. Even just the faceplate with inlay. This was went too high for my pocketbook right now.
    Mandolin, Guitar, & Bass for Doug Rawling & The Caraganas
    www.dougrawling.com
    2008 Kentucky KM-1000
    2014 Martin D-28 Authentic 1937
    1964 Gibson LG-0
    2022 Sigma SDR-45VS

  31. #24
    Mando-Accumulator Jim Garber's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Westchester, NY
    Posts
    30,753

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    Someone must have made him an offer for that and the case. They were both withdrawn.
    Jim

    My Stream on Soundcloud
    Facebook
    19th Century Tunes
    Playing lately:
    1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1

  32. #25
    Registered User jim simpson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Wheeling, WV
    Posts
    5,508

    Default Re: Broken Gibson headstock

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-Gibson-...8AAOSwol5Y1Zdg

    New listing: buy-it-now for $999.99 case, headstock and tuners
    Old Hometown, Cabin Fever String Band

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •