Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

  1. #1
    Registered User AndyPanda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Alameda, California
    Posts
    110

    Default Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    A mandolin I am interested in - price is low due to damage. The mandolin holds tune and plays fine with no rattles. It feels solid enough but what sort of drop would cause a crack like this and do you think this could be repaired easily?

    Or is this a complete reset of the neck and top etc.

    It's a decent instrument with hand carved top and back - I'm just looking at it as a player and don't care a bit about looks.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Cracked_Mandolin.jpg 
Views:	369 
Size:	149.6 KB 
ID:	153732

  2. #2
    Adrian Minarovic
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Banska Bystrica, Slovakia, Europe
    Posts
    3,479

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    Hard to tell how severe it is or how severe it can be few months from now.
    I'm just in the middle of extensive repairs of F9 that had similar symptoms that resulted in shifted neck requiring neck reset which is MAJOR surgery on any mandolin with dovetail joint.
    The crack can be result of fall or very likely overheating that caused wood pieces to move slightly and the finish cracked...
    How tall is the bridge? If it is close to lowest possible setting or already cut down there's trouble...
    Adrian

  3. The following members say thank you to HoGo for this post:


  4. #3
    Registered User Frank Ford's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Palo Alto, CA
    Posts
    441

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyPanda View Post
    It feels solid enough but what sort of drop would cause a crack like this and do you think this could be repaired easily?
    Can't tell much from that photo, except that it's unlikely the crack was caused by a drop - more likely it's a result of shrinkage or movement as a result of age, heat, stress, or whatever.

  5. The following members say thank you to Frank Ford for this post:


  6. #4
    Registered User Ivan Kelsall's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Manchester - Lancashire - NW England
    Posts
    14,187

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    Both Adrian's & Frank's answers sort of echo my own thoughts. Maybe it's not actually 'cracked' in the sense that the joint is coming apart. You have 2 sections of wood joined together,so it's possible that if the mandolin was dropped,the neck could simply have 'sprung' enough to break the finish at the joint, without actually breaking the joint itself - but it does need looking at,
    Ivan
    Weber F-5 'Fern'.
    Lebeda F-5 "Special".
    Stelling Bellflower BANJO
    Tokai - 'Tele-alike'.
    Ellis DeLuxe "A" style.

  7. The following members say thank you to Ivan Kelsall for this post:


  8. #5
    Mediocre but OK with that Paul Busman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Frederick,MD
    Posts
    2,304

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    Can you buy this with the proviso that you can take it to a luthier for evaluation and return it if the luthier says it would cost too much to stabilize?
    For wooden musical fun that doesn't involve strumming, check out:
    www.busmanwhistles.com
    Handcrafted pennywhistles in exotic hardwoods.

  9. #6

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    Does the bass side show the same signs of failure?

  10. #7
    Registered User AndyPanda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Alameda, California
    Posts
    110

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    No ... the bass side looks OK. The crack on the top just looked like expansion cracking the finish but this one makes me think that it's had a hard hit. Or what would cause this one?
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Crack.jpg 
Views:	143 
Size:	28.7 KB 
ID:	153748

  11. #8
    Registered User AndyPanda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Alameda, California
    Posts
    110

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    I'm getting it long distance and "as is" - but the price is low, assuming the worst. I decided to gamble on it so I'll have it in my hands in a few days.

  12. #9
    Registered User jim simpson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Wheeling, WV
    Posts
    5,512

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    Can you tell us what brand or maker?
    Old Hometown, Cabin Fever String Band

  13. #10
    Lurkist dhergert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Blue Zone, California
    Posts
    1,876
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    From the "whiteness" of the stressed finish material where it has cracked, I'd guess that is a poly finish. Pacific Rim?
    -- Don

    "Music: A minor auditory irritation occasionally characterized as pleasant."
    "It is a lot more fun to make music than it is to argue about it."


    2002 Gibson F-9
    2016 MK LFSTB
    1975 Suzuki taterbug (plus many other noisemakers)
    [About how I tune my mandolins]
    [Our recent arrival]

  14. #11
    Registered User AndyPanda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Alameda, California
    Posts
    110

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    It's a "the loar" LM-600 which I believe is supposed to be nitro finish?

  15. #12

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    When you have it in hand look for a repaired headstock scroll, or other upward forced trauma to headstock or neck. If not then it may well have been hot (left in car in summer) like Hogo said.

  16. The following members say thank you to Eric Oliver for this post:


  17. #13
    Lurkist dhergert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Blue Zone, California
    Posts
    1,876
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Can you tell how severe this might be from a pic?

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyPanda View Post
    It's a "the loar" LM-600 which I believe is supposed to be nitro finish?
    Hmmm, you're exactly right... Which means if there's no other repair necessary, you might be able to get the finish to melt-back together in that location with a careful and gentle application of lacquer thinner.

    Good luck with this!
    -- Don

    "Music: A minor auditory irritation occasionally characterized as pleasant."
    "It is a lot more fun to make music than it is to argue about it."


    2002 Gibson F-9
    2016 MK LFSTB
    1975 Suzuki taterbug (plus many other noisemakers)
    [About how I tune my mandolins]
    [Our recent arrival]

  18. The following members say thank you to dhergert for this post:


Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •