Anyone know how to pronounce this? Is there an English translation or another name for this Welsh tune?
Diolch yn fawr ...
Anyone know how to pronounce this? Is there an English translation or another name for this Welsh tune?
Diolch yn fawr ...
I have to say that the construction looks a bit odd, but it may be old or colloquial welsh. The nearest approach to an anglicised pronunciation I can come up with is "My moon dwedid".
Hope it's helpful
Richard
Thank you, Richard. I gather from the internet that it's usually paired with "Fairwell, Ned Pugh" but there doesn't seem to be reference to it by itself. If you're connected to "Spotify," here's the link:
https://play.spotify.com/album/6VpHSuUSVKvRcN3z7W7YUS
"smith" I think
As I suspected, there is an error in he title. The correct version is:
Mae Nhw'n D'wedyd (a contracted form of Mae Nhw yn Dywedyd).
The pronunciation is a bit difficult to explain with referenece to English. Nh is a consonant in its own right, something like pronouncing an N whilst simultaneously blowing out through your nose. But in the context of the whole phrase, an approximation would be:
MINE HOON DWE-did
It means something like, "They say..." (Modern Welsh: Maen nhw'n dweud)
Last edited by whistler; Dec-19-2016 at 4:48am.
Thank you, Whistler. I copied the title as it was written on the "Folk Melodies of the British Isles" album. A North/South, colloquial spelling divide perhaps? ... Thanks again!
This might help, assuming you have some time to deal with this. The Welsh Alphabet.
Back around the 12th century most of the vowels from Wales were stolen by Hawaiian warriors. That is why the Welsh have a dearth of vowels and the Hawaiians have way too many.
Jim
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Thanks, Jim ... tutto spiegato, allora.
On the contrary, Welsh has more vowels than many other languages. In addition to A, E, I, O and U, W and Y are also counted as vowels. But then, it does have some extra consonants as well (CH, DD, FF, LL, NG, RH and TH are each counted as consonants in their own right).
Of course, I WAS joking!
Jim
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1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1
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