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    Let's build a list of tunes with the same chord progressions. I know lots of tunes have changes similar to a blues progression or 'I've got rhythm'. Not a real jazz guy but this would help playing backup at a jam.

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    Example: 'Stray Cat Strut' 'Fever' 'Hit the Road Jack' are similar.

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    Hmm.. Kind of a broad question, especially given how common the ii-V-i progression is in jazz.

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    I got rhythm = theme from flintstones

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    Keep going:
    Allen's Alley (AKA Wee), Denzil Best
    Almost, David Baker
    Anthropology (AKA Thrivin' From a Riff), Parker/Gillespie
    Apple Honey, Woody Herman
    Bop Kick, Nat Cole
    Boppin' a Riff, Sonny Stitt
    Brown Gold, Art Pepper
    Bud's Bubble, Bud Powell
    Call the Police, Nat Cole
    Calling Dr. Jazz, Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis
    Celerity, Charlie Parker
    Chant of the Groove, Coleman Hawkins
    Chasin' the Bird, Cheers, & Constellation, Charlie Parker
    Coolie Rini, Howard McGhee
    Coppin' the Bop, J.J. Johnson
    Cottontail, Duke Ellington
    Delerium, Tadd Dameron
    Dexter's Deck, Dexter Gordon
    Dexterity , Charlie Parker
    Don't Be That Way, Edgar Sampson
    Dorothy, Howard McGhee
    The Duel, Dexter Gordon
    Eb Pob, Fats Navarro/Leo Parker
    Fat Girl, Fats Navarro
    Father Steps In, Dixon/Randall/Hines/Fox
    Fifty Second Street Theme, Thelonius Monk
    The Flintstones, Hoyt Curtain
    Fox Hunt, J.J. Johnson
    Goin' To Minton's , Fats Navarro
    Good Queen Besd, Duke Ellington
    The Goof and I, Al Cohn
    Hamp's Paws, Hampton Hawes
    Harlem Swing, Nat Cole
    Hollerin' and Screamin', Eddie Davis
    I'm an Errand Boy for Rhythm, Nat Cole
    In Walked Horac, Jay Jay, & Jaybird, J.J. Johnson
    The Jeep is Jumpin', Duke Ellington
    Jug Handle, Juggernaut, Gene Ammons
    Juggin' Around, Frank Foster
    Jumpin' at the Woodside, Count Basie
    Lemon Drop, George Wallington
    Lester Leaps In, Lester Young
    Lila Mae, Nat Cole
    The Little Man on the White Keys
    Miss Thing, Count Basie
    Moody Speaks (original version), James Moody/Dave Burns
    Moody's Got Rhythm, James Moody
    Moose the Mooche, Charlie Parker
    Mop, Mop, Gaillard/Stewert/Tatum
    Newk's Fadeway, No Moe, Sonny Rollins
    Northwest Passage, Herman/Jackson/Burns
    O Go Mo, Oleo, Sonny Rollins
    On the Scene, Gillespie/Fuller/Roberts
    One Bass Hit, Opp-Bop-Sha-Bam, An Oscar for Treadwell, Dizzy Gillespie
    Ow, Charlie Greenlea
    Passport, Charlie Parker
    Pogo Stick Bounce, Eden Ahbez
    Raid the Joint, Erskine Hawkins
    Red Cross, Charlie Parker
    Rhythm in a Riff, Billy Eckstine
    Rhythm Sam, Nat Cole
    Rhythm-a-ning, Thelonius Monk
    Salt Peanuts, Dizzy Gillespie
    Seven Come Eleven, Charlie Christian
    Shag, Sidney Bechet
    Shaw Nuff, Dizzy Gillespie
    Shoo Shoo Baby, Phil Moore
    Solid Potato Salad, DePaul/Prince/Raye
    Sonnyside,Sonny Stitt
    Squatty Roo, Johnny Hodges
    Stay On It, Tadd Dameron
    Steeplechase, Charlie Parker
    Straighten Up and Fly Right, Nat Cole
    The Street Beat, C. Thompson/ Robert Mellin
    Strictly Confidential., Bud Powell
    Swedish Schnapps, Charlie Shavers
    Swing Spring, J.J. Johnson
    Swingin' With Diane, Art Pepper
    Syntax, J.J. Johnson
    Ta-de-ah, Nat Cole
    The Theme, Miles Davis
    Tiptoe, Thad Jones
    Turnpike, J.J. Johnson
    Wail, Webb City, Bud Powell
    Wee (AKA Allen's Alley) , Dizzy Gillespie
    Who's Who, Art Farmer
    Wire Brush Stomp, Gene Krupa
    XYZ, Budd Johnson
    Yeah Man. J. Russel Robinson
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    Wow! Thanks Ted.

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    There are also "contrafacts" for other tunes besides "I Got Rhythm," but it is the most common, unless you want to count the blues.

    This also might be helpful: 10 common jazz progressions

    And if that is not enough, there is a very extensive list of progressions and tonal shifts from Ralph Patt.

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    Great list!

    "Dizzy Atmosphere" is another tune based on rhythm changes....other tunes that have had parts of them used again are things like "Whispering" ("Groovin' High"), "How High the Moon" ("Ornithology"), "Honeysuckle Rose", etc. All or parts of those tunes supplied the chord changes to various bebop tunes.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jazz_contrafacts

    Some are parts of tunes mixed:

    "Scrapple from the Apple" is the A part of "Honeysuckle Rose"

    Even in Dixieland there are common tunes with the same or similar chords.....lots of tunes with the "Bill Bailey" changes.

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    So you could play a full 4 set evening of music with 1 chord chart!
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    in Seven Come Eleven,in Ab, the bridge starts at G7. Had this been a Rhythm tune, it would go to C7, the dominant III
    Jumpin' at the Woodside is not a Rhythm tune but rather I-I7-IV-II-V..

    Take the A Train is said to have been based on Exactly Like You
    Art Pepper-Straight Life--After You've Gone
    Bird:
    Ko-Ko-Cherokee
    Bird Of Paradise-All the Things
    Donna Lee(possibly written by Miles Davis)-Back Home Again in Indiana
    there's one on Embraceable You also--"Quasimodo"? "Meandering"?
    he also had tunes derived from "S'Wonderful and Just the Way You Look Tonight

    The bridge of Bill Monroe's Rawhide is an I Got Rhythm bridge
    Turkey in the Straw and Roanoke have the same changes

    If we isolate cyclical dominants (circle of fifths, around the horn, bridge of "Rhythm") changes it's interesting also to consider sections of Salty Dog Blues, Alabama Jubilee, Sweet Georgia Brown, and Assanhado. Assanhado starts the dominants at the root! A7-D7-G7-C7-F7-Bb, then a quick E back home to A.

    Django also had Rhythm changes tunes--Babik? Moppin' the Bride? Micro? I need to go listen to be sure..

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    oh yeah I think Move by Denzil Best, (famous recordings by Miles Davis, Hank Garland, and Paul Glasse) is based on Jumpin' at the Woodside

    and who could forget Hot House which is really What is This Thing Called Love

    Lullaby of Birdland has commonality with Love Me or Leave Me

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    Will you are right. This was my reason for asking. If I can learn and hear these famous tunes upon which other tunes are based I can be a rhythm mando player in a short period of time. I hate going to any jam carrying charts.

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    "Five Foot Two, Eyes of Blue" and "My Four Reasons" have exactly the same chord progressions all the way through to the point that I play them as a medley.
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    Mix & match. There are only 2 jazz tune A parts, and then there's the Sears & Roebuck vs Montgomery Ward B parts... (in jest!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Stiernberg View Post
    Django also had Rhythm changes tunes--Babik? Moppin' the Bride? Micro? I need to go listen to be sure..
    Isn't "Swing 42" a modified Rhythm Changes tune as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSDarr View Post
    Isn't "Swing 42" a modified Rhythm Changes tune as well?

    -David
    It's mainly a C major turnaround on the outside and something similar, in E, in the bridge. No circle of fifths.

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    A few more examples of contrafacts:

    Prince Albert (Kenny Dorham) - All the Things You Are
    Tour's End (Stan Getz) and Dig (Miles Davis) - Sweet Georgia Brown
    Bike up the Strand (Gerry Mulligan) - Strike up the Band
    Mayreh (Horace Silver) - All God's Chillun Got Rhythm
    Apple Core (Gerry Mulligan) - Love Me or Leave Me.


    The 50's pop song "Only You" is largely based on the same changes as "There Will Never Be Another You".
    So is Split Kick (Horace Silver)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph johansson View Post
    It's mainly a C major turnaround on the outside and something similar, in E, in the bridge. No circle of fifths.
    Right. I think of it as having two parts -- both based on a variation to the A section of "Rhythm Changes" though. The A-part in C, and the bridge in E. Seems to me that a lot of the Rhythm tunes often have bridges that aren't straight circle of fifths and my understanding is that the name/term "rhythm changes" is primarily derived from the A-section of "I Got Rhythm". There are plenty of circle-of-fifths tunes that wouldn't be called rhythm changes. And I agree that "Swing 42" is a "C major turnaround" but doesn't that apply to all rhythm changes tunes? The basic phrases are based on some variation of I-iv-ii-V7 or iii-IV-ii-V7 or similar. Looks like a turnaround to me.

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    The Charlie Parker tune "Marmaduke" is exactly "Honeysuckle Rose", unlike "Scrapple From the Apple" which is Honeysuckle A and Rhythm Changes B. Marmaduke is a cool, very playable tune that nobody plays plays, even Jazzers. I've been trying to get folks out here to learn it.

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    A day of two before this thread began, I was messing around and stuck the first few bars of "Ornithology" into an improv over a CCR tune. Couldn't remember what the source progression was, though I knew that "How High The Moon" was one of the progressions Parker had hung a new melody on. Couldn't remember how the tune went beyond the F chord (bar 6-7), but I had it in a fakebook and looked it up.

    Also found it in an Aeborsold play-along (Vol 93 What's New) I had picked up somewhere at a yard sale or store closing. Listening to the CD track, I have to say that very quickly, I was completely lost as to where in the progression the disc was. The guitarist played so many ambiguous substitutions and alterations #5s, b5s #/b9s? ? ? ?, I really couldn't hear any recognizable chord cycle at all. Bloop bleep bla-blah-boop

    (I guess my poor ears just aren't/werem't "hip" enough and probably would have been the object of ridicule for playing any "vanilla changes" if sitting in.)

    Hey! so let's "My Pal Foot-Foot" in B!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandocrucian View Post

    Also found it in an Aeborsold play-along (Vol 93 What's New) I had picked up somewhere at a yard sale or store closing. Listening to the CD track, I have to say that very quickly, I was completely lost as to where in the progression the disc was. The guitarist played so many ambiguous substitutions and alterations #5s, b5s #/b9s? ? ? ?, I really couldn't hear any recognizable chord cycle at all. Bloop bleep bla-blah-boop
    I'm glad I'm not the only one! This is definitely a problem I have with the "jazzier" jazz playback tracks -- once the backing instrument adds more and more extensions all of the chords sound the same to me and I have no idea where I am. On the other hand, I've not had this trouble so much with the 2 or 3 Aebersold books/CDs I have, which are, for the most part, only piano and bass. For the most part I prefer more swing backup tracks where I find the chords easier to identify than in the later-era jazz tracks. In the interest of full disclosure, I should add that keeping my place in the form when trying to play against jazz progressions is an issue for me period -- and an area that I am currently working on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandocrucian View Post
    Listening to the CD track, I have to say that very quickly, I was completely lost as to where in the progression the disc was. The guitarist played so many ambiguous substitutions and alterations #5s, b5s #/b9s? ? ? ?, I really couldn't hear any recognizable chord cycle at all.
    This used to happen to me a LOT with the Aebersold play alongs. A few years of really studying piano chord voicings solved that for me. Now when I hear most chords, it is pretty easy to hear them in context in spite of the substitutions, extensions and alterations. I hear the underlying chord rather than all the fluff.

    Another thing to keep in mind is no two Experienced jazz players play chord progressions the same. It is accepted that way. Just listen for the basic direction the chords go first, then listen for more specifics.

    Think back to when you were first learning to play with people, did you hear and recognize every chord? Probably not. But through playing and studying chord progressions, your ear got better. Same will happen in a Jazz context.

    I also find I prefer Band in a Box real tracks over Aebersold play alongs.
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    Further examples can be found in Wikipedia:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jazz_contrafacts

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    Very cool Pete.
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    ...and a list of Jazz contrafacts:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jazz_contrafacts
    ...and Charlie Parker's "Dewey Square"[ =Lady Be Good] chart:
    http://bigjazzbook.ru/d/dewey_square/dewey_square.gif
    ...and Dewey Square audio
    Rifftide [=Lady Be Good] by Coleman Hawkins with a nice additional riff:
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