Has anyone seen one of these before?
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/msg/4856812673.html
Strange.
Has anyone seen one of these before?
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/msg/4856812673.html
Strange.
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That's probably what it is .... interesting.
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Beautiful sounding instrument
If I miss one day’s practice, I notice it. If I miss two days’ practice, the critics notice it. If I miss three days’ practice, the public notices it.
Franz Liszt, 1894
That is David Grisman (mandolin) and Bryan Bowers (autoharp) playing a duet. Nothing to do with the instrument above. Those mandoliras or harp-mandolins were novelty instruments tho some were made by excellent luthiery shops. Some harp mandolins actually had unfretted strings like a harp to play bass notes. Some did not have those strings so in those cases they were just odd-shaped mandolins.
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I'll say not unusual (renaissance music knew the theorbo) and not really a mandolin (GDAE alone does not qualify).
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Hmmm... Bertram, not sure what you mean ... you could certainly play mandolin music on those oddball instruments. I would say they are mandolins. Tuned the same, same tonal range, metals strung and fretted... what else do you need?
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Listed at Players Vintage Instruments. (nfi)
This one doesn't appear to have separate tuners/bridge for the harp part .... I guess the 'look' of a mandoharp, but not a 'true' version?
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probably a Monzino, made in Milan, who made quite a few of these in different styles. It is certainly a mandolin. I have concluded that a gdae tuning with double strings is just about the only defining thing that makes a mandolin. There can be so much variation in just about every other aspect of these things! Just wait until the book comes out!
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http://www.mcdonaldstrings.com
The Mandolin Project on building mandolins
The Mandolin-a history
The Ukulele on building ukuleles
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If I miss one day’s practice, I notice it. If I miss two days’ practice, the critics notice it. If I miss three days’ practice, the public notices it.
Franz Liszt, 1894
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ty, but how can you tell???? the idiot with the camera faced it straight into the outdoor light, so everything is so dark.
If I miss one day’s practice, I notice it. If I miss two days’ practice, the critics notice it. If I miss three days’ practice, the public notices it.
Franz Liszt, 1894
Go to Gregg Miners site, http://harpguitars.net for more facts etc. about harp-instruments than you will ever want to know.
Last edited by Jim Garber; Feb-01-2015 at 8:58pm.
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1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1
Sorry! Tried to do this on my iphone. It should be fixed.
Jim
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1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1
Cool link Jim!
Timothy F. Lewis
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I tried to click on a couple of links on the page, it wants me to be a member to get anywhere but the main page
If I miss one day’s practice, I notice it. If I miss two days’ practice, the critics notice it. If I miss three days’ practice, the public notices it.
Franz Liszt, 1894
Not sure what you're talking about Ruby. There is a member section, but most of the place is free.
Here's the Monzino page:
http://harpguitars.net/history/monzino/monzino.htm
Well they have harpguitars--so why not mando harps?
I wouldn't mind either one--although I don't know I'd have the time to tune it properly...
Would it save you a lot of time if I just gave up and went mad now?
I am trying to follow the builder's mind here. These are not harps, because there are no extra strings, so technically they are mandolins with bodies distorted to look like something else from afar. A bit like '59 Caddillacs that wanted to look like airplanes. So it was not the builder's intention to just build a mandolin that sounds like a mandolin and looks like a mandolin, and equally it is probably not a prospective buyer's intention to just play a mandolin. This is a grey area instrument.
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