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    Nice...but one suggestion I have about the passage at :27 (and similar passage transposed later) . It fingers better when played way up the neck and using the open E string - this is a bariolage bowing passage, and although it sounds OK as played on the video, the passage sounds best to my ears when using fingered notes on the D and A strings and the open E. Almost Bach cross-picking.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=HZ...iolage&f=false

    http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/ar...p/t-34613.html

    "Any section of music using bariolage, such as in the E Major Partita is intended to be played with open strings when possible...sounds good and "ringing" on bowed strings, and plucked. #Here's a definition of bariolage snagged off the internet:
    The bowed instrument musical technique known as bariolage involves quick alternation between a static note and changing notes, that form a melody either above or below the static note. This technique is common to Baroque violin music, where the static note is usually an open string note. This has the effect of creating maximum resonance in the instrument.
    A well-known example of bariolage is in Bach's Preludio to the E major Partita No. 3 for solo violin, where three strings are involved in the maneuver (one open string and two fingered notes)."

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    Measure 3 shows a double-stop of E and G#, with the open E string, indicated by the separate beaming, and is played on the 14th fret of the D string and 11th fret of the A string. The fingered E on the D string descends to D# and then to D natural (an E7 chord) and resolves to an A chord, with what would be a double-stop, C# on the D string at the 11th fret, and A at the 12th fret of the A string with the open pedal E still sounding. The passage then just moves one or the other voice of the double stop while keeping the open E ringing.

    The C# descends to B, then the A to G3, etc. in a fairly consistent manner through the passage. The next-to-last measure still shows the open E, and the last notes on the D and A strings are the F# and D#.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steevarino View Post
    Straight off of the iPhone on a new mandolin I strung up about 24 hours before recording this...
    wow, just wow, very nice
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    Like it.

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    sweet!

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    I have tried to play the Partita for a long time. It is helpful to see what it looks like when someone plays it. I have a lot of trouble with the open E strings.
    I still like the rendition by Mr. Mike Marshall on his "Duo" with Mr. Darol Anger. Radim Zenkl also recorded it but I have never heard it.
    I bet the Mel Bay edition, which I think has tab to go along with standard notation, should be of great help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domradave View Post
    I bet the Mel Bay edition, which I think has tab to go along with standard notation, should be of great help.
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    Only if the Mel Bay edition fingers the bariolage passages correctly!

    BTW, I did enjoy the performance.

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    How does someone memorize that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by montana View Post
    How does someone memorize that?
    Lots and lots of practice I would imagine.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by montana View Post
    How does someone memorize that?
    One measure at a time. Same as anything else.

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    Very nice. Lovely. So that is the new Redline A-5?
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    Beautiful stuff!

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    I found a video of Chris Thile playing this piece and check out how he plays the bariolage passage:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2P1USiqzKw

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    Who-hoo! What fun. It is such a cool piece on mandolin. And it is really nice to see it played right 'off the cuff' and not as a slick concert performance. Although that is the goal. Thanks for the video.

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    Default Re: Bach's Partita No.3 on a RedLine Acoustics A Style Mandolin

    Quote Originally Posted by montana View Post
    How does someone memorize that?
    Listen to it every day for six months and then practice it every day for six months.
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    6 months...I have been at it for year!
    pathetic, I know.

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