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    I always wanted an A Style Mandolin and bought myself one this past May. I bought a Loar LM-400 with a CA Bridge and a nice hard case. Now I do have an F-style but since playing both I really love the A-style a lot more. Now I want to take it to the Bluegrass Jams and will be the odd man out because they all have F-Styles. Wondering will I be thrown out or considered and a rebel and outlaw. I love the looks of the F-style but love playing and feel comfortable with the A-Style like I said before a whole lot more. It seems to just fit me and I am quite a bit more comfortable playing it. This is a great mandolin for the money and will take me through the rest of my beginners into advanced for sure.
    I was thinking maybe the reason I love A-Style mandolins more now that I own both styles is because I am a Bluegrass guitar player and feel and easy transistion from Guitar to Mandolin that kind of hangs like a guitar. I am not sure the real reason why, but I do know I just love the feel and looks of a A-Style Mandolin. Anyone on this forum feel the same way or have any input on this?

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    Dunno, the question has never really come up around here before.
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    I live in Haddon Heights, what jams are you attending so I can make sure you are banned?

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    If anyone judges music by how it looks, then they do not understand music.

    Play well within the genre and only the fools will object. The sooner you can locate and ignore them the better, IMO.

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    I have a strong preference, even aesthetically, for A-style mandolins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Goist View Post
    I have a strong preference, even aesthetically, for A-style mandolins.
    Amen. I've flirted with the idea of an F-style but always go back to the A-style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus View Post
    If anyone judges music by how it looks, then they do not understand music.
    ...snip...
    If this is true (and it is), then there are a LOT of people who do not understand music.
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    My husband prefers and A-style w/ oval hole to an F-style.
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    Heck, I play both an A style and a two-point like Jethro Burns...no one would ever have banned him for not playing an F. I have no worries about it, but I do have to admit I am more likely seen at an Old Time jam than at the Bluegrass group.
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    I go to jams two or three time a month. I take one of these.

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    If you should get thrown out, then that jam was not worth joining. Snobs can just stuff it. And this is from an F style player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgrexa View Post
    I live in Haddon Heights, what jams are you attending so I can make sure you are banned?
    I'm in Howell, I'm going to need to know as well.

    This A vs F things is actually been discussed to death but let me try and put it in perspective. Anyone that's looking at what's being played in a jam and is impressed by that isn't doing well to begin with. A few years ago at Woodstown we had this great jam going when a young man stepped into the circle with an old off brand pancake mandolin and smoked every mandolin player there. We were just damned impressed with his playing.
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    My J Bovier A5 Special doesn't sound any different than an F with my eyes closed (figuratively speaking). I don't think your sound will lack anything, not with that great Loar LM400. Those are highly recommended instruments in the A with F hole variety. Can't beat it for the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Goist View Post
    If this is true (and it is), then there are a LOT of people who do not understand music.
    There are. There sure are. Pretty sure we beat this one to death every chance we get. And it keeps coming back ... and back ...

    I'd rather hear a good-sounding instrument well played than a good-looking instrument poorly played. Not saying that A models aren't good-looking, 'cause they are, but there's a bunch of folks who think it looks square next to an F model. (Of course it isn't square, it's mostly oval. ) But whatever instrument sounds good to you will be just fine, and should be to anyone hearing it. Look at Willie Nelson's Trigger - that is one awful-looking instrument and all beat up, too, but the sound he pulls out of it is truly wonderful. And that's what counts - the audio portion of the show, not the video.
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    The obvious solution is to quit playing bluegrass.
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    GuitarDogs62, good job! The experiment worked! I have taken down all of their names and will have them shunned immediately! I can't believe you all fell for this. Typical A players.
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    I refuse to play Florentine Style mandolins, only because my Great (x12) Grandpa Mike was ripped off by those lousy Medicis for a sculpture he did.
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    Just tell 'em that Tim O'Brien said it's okay... http://timobrien.net/sites/default/f...jpg?1277754699
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    I play an F-style in local Irish and Scottish sessions. So between the two of us, I think the cosmic balance of the Universe will be restored.

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    1. This topic comes up repeatedly. But -- does it ever really happen that a mandolinist gets actively "dissed" for playing a non-F-model at a bluegrass-oriented jam? Or are A-model players anticipating this reaction, and therefore taking the normal frictions and interactions of jams, as representing "A-model discrimination"?

    2. I've taken all kinds of mandos to different jams, including a beat-up Strad-O-Lin A-model that "punches well above its weight." Reaction I get, in general, is "hey, that mandolin sounds pretty good -- what kind is it? How old?" etc., etc. And there was a lot of interest in my "Dawg" model Eastman DGM-1, the Giacomel clone, despite its pronounced non-bluegrass "voice."

    3. If I found that jam members were snooty, un-welcoming, cliquish, disrespectful and exclusionary, I'd stop going -- whether the reason was my instrument's make or profile, my choice of haberdashery, my repertoire choices, my ethnic background, or my political preferences (yes, I went to bluegrass jams in an "Obama 2012" baseball cap: deal with it!). You don't get much enjoyment out of music when you're having status anxiety, IMHO.
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    Careful, you are likely to be band.
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    I have both an A and an F, and have another beautiful A due later this year. I have to admit that the F style looks more in keeping with the music at my local jam, but so long as I keep the tempo and play in tune, nobody gives a hoot what style mandolin I'm playing. If you prefer the LM400, my vote is for you to play it at your jam. BTW, maybe Michael Weaver and Sean Grexa will be kind enough to post pictures of their recent acquisitions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Duncan View Post
    Careful, you are likely to be band.
    Well, sure ... if he can find anyone willing to play with him.

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    I have both an A and an F, and have another beautiful A due later this year.
    What's the gestation period on these?
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    I wish I could afford an F....but my A style Ozark sounds beeYOUtiful! The old Stagg, well...yeah...we'll see how it sounds when it's finished its makeover...

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    Lets see now, Red Rector and Buzz Busby both played A styles and I don`t believe they were ever banned from a jam session, not for their playing anyway, maybe Buzz got banned for other things that he had in his system though, God bless him, he was a good friend of mine....

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