So, is it Margaretella polka? I did find a youtube video for a Margaret's Polka but it doesn't sound Italian and it is a pretty funky oompah one.
So, is it Margaretella polka? I did find a youtube video for a Margaret's Polka but it doesn't sound Italian and it is a pretty funky oompah one.
Jim
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"Margaret Polka" is in Sheri's book, just the M1 part with chord symbols. Credited to "O. di Bella, arr. L. Canoro", 1936. Sheri's post on 24 September (#65 in this thread) said that she'd found and uploaded the scan she was working from for her book, but I can't find it in the Dropbox di Bella folder -- it may have gone AWOL. Either way, it wouldn't add anything to what's in her book. Now, the M2 and full guitar part would be a different matter.
Martin
I've played with Tony (A for Antonia?) Nigrelli at a mando convention. I'm so glad to see that, again, this is turning into a community effort to complete these trio sets. Thank you so much for posting the guitar part. I don't see the Mandola arrangement though.
Now on to the M2, anyone?
I've just remembered that I recorded "Margaret Polka" a few months ago (somewhat slower than Sheri had notated it), so that should help with identifying the tune -- my recording is presumably not the funky oompah tune you mentioned...
And yes, the second mandolin part (or indeed the mandola part) would help with adding harmonies to my recording.
Sheri and I had an email discussion about this tune a little while back, and at the time I noticed that there are a great number of tunes of this name, several of which can be found at the LOC website. All quite different from the Di Bella one.
Martin
Here's the mandola part.
Wundo: Many thanks for the mandola part to Margaret Polka -- we played the tune for the first time at rehearsal yesterday. I had wanted to try it with the group for a while, but needed that additional harmony part (either mandola or second mandolin). Sheri: do you have the scan of the original Di Bella first mandolin part? We were using the transcription from your book yesterday, but it would be nice to have the actual scan.
I've also just come across an interesting site (Link) with hundreds of pieces from many different genres. While this is primarily intended for concertina players, the pieces themselves are mostly not specific to concertina. Of particular interest for the purposes of this thread is that the site owner (Michel Van Der Meiren) has also transcribed both mandolin parts and guitar from seven ballo liscio pieces, I think mostly ones published by Tesio. The pieces in question are:
Alba Di Vittoria (march)
Anfitride (mazurka)
Birichino di Parigi (waltz)
Genitori Cari (waltz)
I Bersaglieni (march)
Inno Garibaldi (march)
Violetta (waltz)
All are available at these links as PDF transcription (score format with all three parts together), as MIDI file and as computer-generated MP3, but not as the original scans.
Martin
Thanks for the great music!
YES. the original scanned Margaret polka (M1) is in the Drop Box with di Bella scores.
The one I heard in the Soundcloud is: Bersaglieri, that march is already in my MM book. It was a handwritten score done by someone not literate in Italian. so the spelling was Basaglieri. Bersaglieri is the correct spelling and refers to the military troops in the mountains.
well, it looks like it uploaded. 2 pgs. for M1 & M2
Got it now - thanks. For some reason I couldn't find it when I was looking before, but that may have been me getting confused.
Thanks also for your two-part Besaglieri March. The tangosite.com version I linked in my post earlier today is a bit different -- different key (G rather than C) and notated in 2/4 rather than 4/4, and there are also some differences in phrasing. I attach the PDF.
Martin
It's the nature of folk music to have variations on the melody but the essence is there. It's the same tune at its core!
Get ready, set, pluck! I'll be starting a new topic with a brand new batch of Neapolitan songs for mandolin. These new titles distinguish themselves from the ballo liscio dance tradition and deserve a separate topic and conversation. If you're just coming on board and learning about this thread, I'm relisting the links here as my Drop box has been modified (improved!)
so here they are by publisher:
GRAUSO https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mi4r0fnok...0HRYQMVga?dl=0
DE STEFANO https://www.dropbox.com/sh/blgu3hsn2...k9fqGLDVa?dl=0
CARDILLI https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b2jz8my27...RDzxLaKVa?dl=0
DI BELLA https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6v7xfftvf...67_YzZ_ga?dl=0
PAGANI https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sgsjhdsba...34mCfoIIa?dl=0
PAOLILLI https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0v1uux6li...0PQyn3zja?dl=0
TESIO https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ge77nkdb8...7XP6wylRa?dl=0
INDEXES by Publisher and by Title
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fxtdxipdj...1OL86Xj8a?dl=0
The new category will be Neapolitan Canzone and it will have a separate index. Make room for these enchanting new melodies!
The music for the misc files posted by Sheri on Oct 1, and the Neopolitan Canzone, are compiled into single documents and available at the following dropbox links
Neopolitan Canzone
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sv6ni8ur2j...nzone.pdf?dl=0
Misc files from Sheri's Oct 1 2014 post
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xoyvhy2s9m...0Post.pdf?dl=0
Cedwyn Morgan
Not sure what's happening at the Drop Box links but I'm afraid none seem to be accessible. At some point over the weekend, it seemed to be in some sort of synching cycle and I can't seem to access, much less upload etc. So, if you're having difficulty with any of the links, it may be due to Yahoo Drop Box. I'm trying to find out but even a message has been impossible for me to send to the tech people. Stay tuned.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Well, it seems I've the problem on my end but visitors still seem to be able to see files. But for the time being, my ability to upload is on hiatus. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Hope y'all have started a wonderful holiday season! here's what's the status of the Drop Box folders.
Mandolin
602 titles
Accordion (suitable for Mando)
78 titles
Neapolitan canzone (Mando & Tenor)
48 titles
Pagani Bb clarinet
14 titles
BTW, I just added 12 NEW titles to Cardilli file.I'm still finding stuff that I had just completely forgotten about. And what's always great is to see that the titles are not redundant.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b2jz8my27...RDzxLaKVa?dl=0 Can you believe it?
I updated all the Indexes (by publisher, title, and individual publisher, like Cardilli). I hope you are all enjoying these treasures.
found some really funky stuff of unknown origin that might not have lasted another 5 minutes in terms of the
disintegration of the copy I have. Tarantella Surrentina! Have fun! Sheri~
Here is a link to a single file with only the 11 new Cardilli tunes referenced in sheri's last post
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhstdpoxhq...02014.pdf?dl=0
Hi Everyone and Happy Holidays. I am still working on adding more titles--probably after the holidays. During this period, I became aware that quite a few of my original Drop Box links had become defunct. Not sure why. The only ones that seemed to be intact are as follows: the accordion music link, the Neapolitan canzone-mandolin link, and the Bb clarinet link all work.
so that's good.
As a result of the original, now broken links, I am republishing the current, accessible links. If any one should have trouble getting into these various publishers, please let me know at your earliest convenience. Thank you and Happy New Year, Sheri
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t0k376jaw...uaXhwIuAa?dl=0 (GRAUSO)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fxtdxipdj...1OL86Xj8a?dl=0 (INDEXES by Title & by Publisher)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/blgu3hsn2...k9fqGLDVa?dl=0 (de STEFANO)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b2jz8my27...RDzxLaKVa?dl=0 (CARDILLI)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6v7xfftvf...67_YzZ_ga?dl=0 (di BELLA)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sgsjhdsba...34mCfoIIa?dl=0 (PAGANI)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0v1uux6li...0PQyn3zja?dl=0 (PAOLILLI)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ge77nkdb8...7XP6wylRa?dl=0 (TESIO)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g2slmtau8...8U_0uC-Ba?dl=0 (Music catalogs--title pages)
Last edited by Mandophile; Dec-28-2014 at 11:04pm.
To make matching sheet music and audio recording easier for reference, it occurs to me that it would be helpful to post an updated a list of Youtube links to my recordings of the pieces posted in this thread since my July posting quoted above. These have all been already posted elsewhere in the Cafe.
In reverse order of recording:
Sicilianedda Mazurka (O. Di Bella)
Mazurka: Prime Fiamme (Morelli)
Waltz: Sogno d'una vergine (L. Canoro) [NB: different from Di Stefano's tune below]
Mazurka: Una Lagrima (Ballarini-Zucchi)
Waltz: Un Pensiero Notturno (Persico)
I Bersaglieri March
Reminiscence Waltz (Morelli)
Waltz: Vane Speranze (L. Canoro)
Valse Fantastico
Mazurka: Delirio D'Amore (O. Di Bella)
Waltz: Gentil Pensiero
Mazurka: Clorindo
Michael Waltz (O. Di Bella)
Mazurka: La Montanara (L. Canoro)
Radio Waltz (O. Di Bella)
Tra Veglia E Sonno (Canoro)
Mazurka: La Dolce Cristina (L. Canoro)
Serenata Napoletana (waltz)
Waltz: Dolce Cuore (L. Canoro)
Waltz: Un Sogno Di Una Vergine (Di Stefano) [NB: Not the same as the Canoro tune above]
Mandolin Mazurka (O. DiBella)
Mazurka: Ginetta (Tafarella)
Pioggia di Rose Mazurka
Margaret Polka (O. Di Bella)
Thus, I have so far recorded 42 of the pieces posted here in this thread -- still a few hundred to go... I should probably move on to some polkas and marches, as I'm rather too heavy on the waltzes and mazurkas.
These are of course only rough home demos, but they may make it easier for those interested in this material to preview the tunes and decide which ones are worth the effort to study and which ones can be safely skipped. My choices of tempo and articulation are just wild stabs at what may have been intended, tempered by my own technical limitations and by the fact that I have spent only limited time on each piece -- others may well decide to interpret the same pieces quite differently.
Martin
thank you a lot, Shery!
What a big job did you do, and how good are the copies!!
I did not find the b clarinet parts yet...the more i am searching, the more my respect for you grows.
I'm in the process of adding even more Bb clarinet parts..almost all composed by Tafarella. They will provide a great enhancement to the preexisting titles. I will repost that link when I'm done. Probably by early in the next week. Thank you and I'm pleased that you're enjoying this wonderful music.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sdu1c2ton...Ej8iRBRfa?dl=0
correct link.
Sorry, but not Tafarella. There are 4 more titles, all by Gerardo Iasilli and several more from the O.di Bella collection of "I Ballabilli" dance music for small ensemble. Some match up well with what exists in the Ballo Liscio file. Again, all clarinet.
Last edited by Mandophile; Jan-10-2015 at 1:40pm.
I'm only getting a 404 message, not dropbox.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sgsjhdsba...34mCfoIIa?dl=0
Uploaded several new Santi Tafarella titles into the PAGANI folder. These include Violin 1 and Piano-Conductor Scores that go with them. HEre they are: Cavalcando, Idolo D'Incanto, La Infanta, Lontano, La Furioso, Lo Spirito, La Gondola and Frenesia.
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