EasyEd
Oct-07-2004, 5:11pm
Hey All,
I asked about this in another thread but it was kinda obscure in there and so thought I'd bring it out here.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....MEWA:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3751881177&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT)
I'm wondering if this fake. Why or why not? Chime in!
In the other thread I said...
I don't have even 1% of the expertise you guys do but to me the ebay mandolin (above) is interesting and I'll suggest why. Could be an interesting wall hanger - a genuine R. L. Givens body with a Gibson neck.
Note that it says Givens body (not A50) with a Gibson neck. No indication of who did the work. Ever hear of somebody putting a Gibson neck on a Givens?
Why would anyone do this? Maybe the original neck got broke or they thought it would play better with a different neck?
Second the pick mark area shows the mando was played alot and likely originally had a fingerboard with no extension on it. Otherwise how did the area get pick marked so thoroughly. Did Givens make fretboards without an extension?
I did some looking and Givens made lots of mandos without an extension.
Third It is/was likely a good sounding mando to be picked that much.
Still pretty likely.
Fourth the back appears to be pretty plain Jane for something from a builder like Bob Givens - although I don't know. Maybe some of you do.
Thank you Jasona for the reply. As you indicated Bob did make a lot of plain Jane mandos. The mando on ebay has a back an awful LOT like the unsigned unumbered one at Greg Boyd.
Fifth The description says it could use some glue on the inside -whats with that - a Givens needing glue??? Oops my bad - the case not the mando - Jeez Ed learn to read.
Still working on it! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Sixth - the labels are obviously pretty bogus but the neck may be tied to one of the labels. I guess the Gibson neck could have come off something made in Bozeman couldn't it?
Obviously so.
Still the "sucker quotient" here is pretty high so I won't bid but will watch this one just to see what happens.
I guess my basic question still is - why could this not be genuine? Any thoughts?
I only have one theory. The area pictured on the mando for auction is round every Givens pic I could find shows it pointed. Is this likely?
Thanks and Take Care! -Ed-
I have absolutely no financial interest in this!!
Take note though if your into Gibson the same seller is offering a pretty nice looking A9. It even has some nice albeit somewhat weak IMO flame on the back! Too bad there is no way to know what it sounds like.
I asked about this in another thread but it was kinda obscure in there and so thought I'd bring it out here.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....MEWA:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3751881177&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT)
I'm wondering if this fake. Why or why not? Chime in!
In the other thread I said...
I don't have even 1% of the expertise you guys do but to me the ebay mandolin (above) is interesting and I'll suggest why. Could be an interesting wall hanger - a genuine R. L. Givens body with a Gibson neck.
Note that it says Givens body (not A50) with a Gibson neck. No indication of who did the work. Ever hear of somebody putting a Gibson neck on a Givens?
Why would anyone do this? Maybe the original neck got broke or they thought it would play better with a different neck?
Second the pick mark area shows the mando was played alot and likely originally had a fingerboard with no extension on it. Otherwise how did the area get pick marked so thoroughly. Did Givens make fretboards without an extension?
I did some looking and Givens made lots of mandos without an extension.
Third It is/was likely a good sounding mando to be picked that much.
Still pretty likely.
Fourth the back appears to be pretty plain Jane for something from a builder like Bob Givens - although I don't know. Maybe some of you do.
Thank you Jasona for the reply. As you indicated Bob did make a lot of plain Jane mandos. The mando on ebay has a back an awful LOT like the unsigned unumbered one at Greg Boyd.
Fifth The description says it could use some glue on the inside -whats with that - a Givens needing glue??? Oops my bad - the case not the mando - Jeez Ed learn to read.
Still working on it! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Sixth - the labels are obviously pretty bogus but the neck may be tied to one of the labels. I guess the Gibson neck could have come off something made in Bozeman couldn't it?
Obviously so.
Still the "sucker quotient" here is pretty high so I won't bid but will watch this one just to see what happens.
I guess my basic question still is - why could this not be genuine? Any thoughts?
I only have one theory. The area pictured on the mando for auction is round every Givens pic I could find shows it pointed. Is this likely?
Thanks and Take Care! -Ed-
I have absolutely no financial interest in this!!
Take note though if your into Gibson the same seller is offering a pretty nice looking A9. It even has some nice albeit somewhat weak IMO flame on the back! Too bad there is no way to know what it sounds like.