Cedar Yellowstone

[Rick Schmidlin]

I heard Chad, Greg Boyds mando exspert bought for himself the Cedar Yellowstone they had. He said he playing it more the his Gilchrist. Has anyboy tried one of these?

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[Chadly]

Yes I am playing this mandolin allot. At least as much as my Gilchrist. In fact I'll be leaving my Gilchrist at home this year for IBMA. I'll be there all week with the Cedar top Yellowstone. Come by our booth and check out this mandolin, I've been very impressed!


Chad Fadely
House of Fine Instruments
(406)327-9925
www.gregboyd.com

[mrt10x]

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[Flyer]

I have heard Chad play this particular Mandolin, and it is Very powerfull....and of course with Chad behind it, the only thing that could happen is for a lot of good music to come out of it.....

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Mike

[kenny m]

Im sure this has been posted before but I must ask how does cedar effect tone and volume compared to spruce. I play a yellowstone and now wondering if it may be time to trade for a cedar topped one.

[Chadly]

I find the cedar to give the mandolin a dry woody tone but it also has plenty of punch. That's something that I just love to hear in a mandolin.

I'm not saying that Cedar is the only way to go in a weber. I've played some great spruce top webers here in the store that sound great to. It's just all about what your looking for in the sound of a mandolin. I also like to use stainless steel strings. This also helps to produce the woody tone I'm looking for.

........Chad

[kenny m]

I really like my weber and I use silk and steel string which are dry sounding too. It is a very loud x braced mando but I have been looking very hard to maybe move to a cedar top tone bar braced weber. Thanks for the input

[mmukav]

Are the x-braced generally louder compared to tone bar braced? And is it true they won't 'open up' as much as a tone bar braced?

[Rick Schmidlin]

Is Weber shipping any other Cedar topped models in the future?

Rick

[Chadly]

We actually have a Cedar top Yellowstone in stock right now. It will be going to IBMA with us. We're also expecting another one today that is for my friend Ian.

Just to clear things up...I actually special ordered my mandolin the way it is. I've been noticing over the past year or two that the stuff from Weber was getting really good. So I kept track of the really cool ones. The first thing was the tone bar bracing combined with the Brekke two-piece bridge. The next option I really liked was the Cedar top. One more thing I thought was important was a satin finish. The Yellowstone we have in stock now is not satin and I really can't tell a difference in the sound. So I'm not sure if that was that important after all.

X bracing does seem to be a little louder. I'm just not fond of that sound. I've always played tone bar instruments.

I used to use Silk n' Steel strings. I liked them.... I still do. My only complaint was that they don't last very long. Stainless or nickel will last forever. My friend Bill, an avid mandolin/guitar player, never changes his nickel strings......NEVER! He waits until they break:)

These are just my thoughts..... thanks for reading.






Sincerely,

Chad Fadely
House of Fine Instruments
311 Knowles St
Missoula, MT #59801
406/327-9925
www.gregboyd.com http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif

[mmukav]

Chad--how does the x-brace sound different than tone bars? I've only had experience with tone bars, so I'm curious.

[J. Mark Lane]

I have this vague recollection of hearing somewhere that cedar doesn't "last" as well as spruce. I believe I heard this in the context of a discussion about classical guitars. I recall somone saying that, unlike old dreads etc., the classical guitars have a limited "life," and become essentially worthless after a certain amount of time (20 years?).

Does anyone know if there is any truth to this. Will a cedar topped mandolin have a limited life?

Mark

[Rick Schmidlin]

There are some steel stringed Cedar Guitars that are going very strong that were built in the 70's. You can do a search pn the Acoustic Guitar Mag. archieves forum for this. Guitar luthiers like Ryan,Noble,Olson all love Cedar.James Taylor has playing a Cedar topped Olson for years. That Chad who has a Gilchrist ro compare has been so excited about his now sparks my interest.Clarence White's lat guitar was a Cedar topped Whitebook and he said it was the best guitar he ever heard.Cedar breaks in sometimes after a hour of playing while AD topps take much longer.

Rick

[Spruce]

I played Chad's mandolin and it's the best sounding Weber I've ever laid fingers on...

"Is Weber shipping #any other Cedar topped models in the future?"

I visited them not too long ago, and they were very encouraged by the way the cedar topped mandos were sounding...
As was I....

[kenny m]

mmukav, the best way I can describe the difference in sound is in guitar terms. Its like the difference between a martin d-28 and a d-35. They seem bassier and have more overtones and a little lighter on the treble side. Its not a bad sound just different. A non musician would probally not tell the difference. But as I read all that is said here it makes me wish I had gotten a tone bar mando, which I do have ,just not in a weber. When I bought mine I didnt even know you could get one with tone bars.

[Rick Schmidlin]

I see that Greg Boyd will have another Cedar Yellowstone and a Sitka at IBAM. If anyone here trys them there I would love comments.

Rick

[mmukav]

Kenny--'They seem bassier and have more overtones and a little lighter on the treble side'---which one did you mean? The x-braced or the tone -bar?