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s1m0n
Jan-21-2010, 11:06pm
I have a two point regal oval-holed flattop, which is beginning to buckle along the line across the waist between the points, which also happens to be right where the oval hole lies. It's not quite uplayable like this, but today I was removing the tuners to use on another project, and decided to see what the problem might be while I had the strings off.

Poking around doesn't reveal any loose struts, etc. In fact, apart from the buckling top, there's nothing wrong. This is obviously the weakest part of the top, because here the top is mostly hole, and there's no longitudinal bracing of any kind, apart from the back and sides. The back and sides show no sign of distress.

Is this a problem that can be addressed? How?

There's a brace across the top just aft of the hole, and there's a blob of glue on the bottom of the brace at about the point where the hole ends, bass side. The glue lump is flat across the bottom, so it had to have been stuck to something parallel with the top, but there's sign of any other gluing point, so I'm working on the theory that this glue once held a pickup rather than anything structural.

Rob Grant
Jan-22-2010, 3:09am
Can 'ya post an image of the top? The 'ol concept of a photo being "worth a thousand words" floats a lot of boats on this forum.

8ch(pl)
Jan-22-2010, 4:17am
If yer deck be bucklin matey, ye should talk to th' Bos'n.

s1m0n
Jan-22-2010, 4:48am
How are these?

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7266/regalmando1.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/regalmando1.jpg/) http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6978/regalmando2.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/regalmando2.jpg/) http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4781/regalmando3.th.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/regalmando3.jpg/) http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9154/regalmando4.th.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/regalmando4.jpg/)

3 more coming...

s1m0n
Jan-22-2010, 4:54am
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2834/regalmando5.th.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/regalmando5.jpg/) http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3457/regalmando6.th.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/regalmando6.jpg/) http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3457/regalmando6.th.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/regalmando6.jpg/)

Do these help? I didn't think I'd be able to capture much of the warping, but the low shots of the oval show it pretty well.

Inside, there's nothing to stiffen up the body but the back and sides, and as I mentioned it's folding across the hole, where there's only and inch and a quarter of top on each side of the oval.

Big Joe
Jan-22-2010, 6:10am
I can't speak for this instrument because the pictures don't show enough, but it could be a headblock problem. You will often see this on guitars when the neckblock begins to rotate. Withoug seeing it in hand it would be hard to tell. Just about anything can be fixed. The issue is what has to be done to fix the problem and is it worth the cost. Again, those are the kind of things that in hand inspection are needed to determine. This is just one thing that may be wrong, but at least it is a start.

mculliton123
Jan-22-2010, 7:25am
If yer deck be bucklin matey, ye should talk to th' Bos'n.

Gotta love Ol' Navy humor.~o)
Michael