favorite grisman song?

[Baron Collins-Hill]

my favorite grisman song would have to be dawg funk, but id like to learn another one, as ive over played it by a mile, anyone have any suggestions?

[AlanN]

EMD
Dawg's Rag
Dawgma
Steppin' with Stephane

[SternART]

Alan......do you play Dawg's Rag? Man....we oughta pick sometime, I was just workin on that one last night.
I hardly ever find someone to play that with!

I like the cycle of chords tunes designed for blowin.......like EMAD, 16-16, or even Blue Midnight.
Cedar Hill is fun........cool bridge. I like Janice.....it has similar chords to T. Rice's Swing 51 which is also a fun tune to play.
Japan has that Dorian mode thing going...Dawgma is GREAT, similar head chords to Autumn Leaves with a cool bridge....first tune I ever learned was Opus 38 & I still like to play it. A lot of folks think
these tunes are too hard.....but that is mostly because the guys that play them in the DGQ are so advanced. They really aren't much
different than swing tunes......you just gotta be able to play Eflat major 7th, and get into some different rhythmic things.

[Pen]

Love Dawg's Rag for sure

My personal favorite (I play this with a friend of mine who takes Jerry's part on the guitar) is Walkin' Boss. It's not an original of course, but the version Grisman & Jerry Garcia do is so rootsy and kewl - I just love to play it. Something about trading licks back and forth make a song FUN!

[Baron Collins-Hill]

do you have tabs for any of those? tabledit or not, i dont care, thanks for the suggestions

[David Horovitz]

Just about all of the tunes mentioned are in the Dawg/Newgrass section of the TablEdit files on www.mandozine.com

[AlanN]

Yeah, SternART, I pick Dawg's Rag, as a matter of fact, just last weekend, I did that one and Dawg's Bull with the other Alan, Bibey, that is. He is so dang good, he can tenor anything. We did Blue Midnight and we each played Dawg's solo off the record, note for note together. When we finished, the crowd around us cheered, it was cool. I love doin' the Dawg

[patsites]

I play and sing a bunch from the Garcia/Grisman repetoire like Thrill is Gone, Friend of the Devil, Dawgnation, So What, Milestones.
I also play some dawg standards like Opus 38, EMD, Japan, Opus 57 and Dawg Funk. Even though they're not his tunes, I play Minor Swing and El cumbanchero dawg style, but does anyone have music to Dawg's Rag, Blue Midnite, and/or Dawg's Bull? I love those tunes and can't find it anywhere. I'm not patient enough to sit down and work them out with the CD.

[SternART]

Blue Midnight & Dawg's Rag are in the Homespun book & 6 CD's. Listening to Dawg talk about his tunes & break them down for you is pretty cool. Highly recommended if you're trying to learn David's tunes. It has been out several years but covers many of his classic tunes. I've seen good deals on the set on EBAY.

[onlyagibsonisgoodenuff]

Pupville

[Rick Schmidlin]

EMD

rick

[mandoJeremy]

Tipsy Gipsy

[Atlanta Mando Mike]

16-16, fishscale(not written by Dawg but still a dawg tune IMO), Dawg patch, Key Signator(Anger tune), Waiting on Vasser

Dawg after Dark

[cbogle]

This one goes back a few years, but I really like "Cedar Hill".

Steve D.

[mancmando]

I love all the dawg tunes, but I'm surprised no one's mentioned the tipsy gypsy - I like the tune so much that I even named a band I was in the tipsy gypsies..... http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[mancmando]

sorry, just noticed mandojeremy already mentioned it!!

[duuuude]

Arabia
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[AlanN]

Yes to Key Signator, what a great tune and the Darol Anger version is the definitive one of his Fiddlistics record, done back in 1979. T. Rice gets the rhythm going and he justs plows it right through the yin yang!

Another one on that record is Dysentary Stomp, just a great groove.

[peterbc]

Hartfords Reel (with help from Sam Bush)

[phynie]

slade or sea breeze

[Peter Hackman]

EMD
Dawg's Rag
Dawgma
Steppin' with Stephane
Ah, yes, Steppin', a truly great song, has some
fantastic electric guitar work by Martin Taylor.
Or, check, the retrospective version with Svend
Asmussen playing the violin, and notice the way
he plays behind other soloists.

(Incidentally, and off topic,
in an interview a couple of years ago
Asmussen claimed
that Grapelli "svingede ikke noe videre" -
I leave it as an exercise to figure out the Danish.
I suppose he referred to Grapelli's Hot Club stuff
of which Grapelli himself was very critical.)

[AlanN]

Where's the Svend version off of? Don't believe I have that. I do have Svingin' with Sven, recorded live at Fat Tueday's (think), has some good moments.

Dawg re-did Steppin' on Dawgwood, and it's good (with Craven percussion), but the Dawg Grass/Dawg Jazz one is great, and you're right, the guitar is killin.

[Peter Hackman]

Where's the Svend version off of? Don't believe I have that. I do have Svingin' with Sven, recorded live at Fat Tueday's (think), has some good moments.

Dawg re-did Steppin' on Dawgwood, and it's good (with Craven percussion), but the Dawg Grass/Dawg Jazz one is great, and you're right, the guitar is killin.
The version with Asmussen is on the triple CD
DGQ 20 years. Svend also plays on
New Monia, and a Chopin piece that he arranged.

Incidentally that triple also has
Svingin' with Svend, but with Vassar Clements
playing the violin, and Buffalo Norton
on harmonica. Anyone believing that fiddlers
have some kind of bond with the Devil
will KNOW after that performance.

[AlanN]

Gee, and I have the DGQ 20, need to listen to my dang CDs! Thanks.

[SternART]

I'm pretty sure that Key Signator (sp?)isn't a Grisman tune, but was penned by Darol Anger.
And I agree it is a smokin' tune and that Fiddleistics album of Darol's was great. That was kinda like
the beginning of Ook'n M the DGQ offshoot band that was the DGQ sans the Dawg. As I recall he
was only on a few cuts on Darol's album. Wasn't there a version of Blue Midnight at a different
tempo on there....can't recall.... was it really fast? Or was it slower than the DGQ version?
Too bad that Fiddleistics never came out on a CD.

[AlanN]

Blue Midnight was done as a 3 violin opus on Darol's record, and had Dawg take a short solo on da manalin. The majority of mando-ness on that record was Mike.

[SternART]

That sounds right...I can't recall...was it played really fast? It is easy to get chugging away on that chord progression & get it cookin'
I no longer have the record, or a turntable for that matter.....I just seem to remember it was at a vastly different tempo.

[AlanN]

actually, it was about the same, maybe a little faster.

Dude - ping me oldstrings@hotmail.com

[Dave Reiner]

EMD was always one of my favorites. Anyone know where I could find a transcription (or tab)?

Thanks,

Dave

[SternART]

There is a version of EMD in the Tabledit files........a transcription of not only the head but Dawggie's solo, created by Mike Stangland.

[mandopete]

EMD
Dawggy Mountain Breakdown
Turn Of The Century

[Ken Sager]

EMD and Dawg's Waltz are my favorites. The Grisman/Garcia album with Dawg's Waltz is fat with the epitome of Jerry's wonderful guitar tone, oh yeah, Dawg played pretty well, too. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Dan Cole]

Favorites that I can play are: Dawg's Waltz, Mill Valley Waltz, Turn of the Century and Morning Sun.

The most boring to play is Naima.

[straight-a]

"So What" from Grisman and Garcia.

[SternART]

Boy Tke878 John Coltrane just turned over in his grave........ I find Naima to be hauntingly beautiful as a melody.......and those chords are a handful for anyone...12/8 feel....hardly boring. I'm still working on that Bflat 13 with a flatted 9 :-)
Seriously the way Dawggie plays it in two octaves with that hammer-on up the neck...whew...I once played it with Malcome Smith a great fiddler/guitarist and he could nail the difficult chords.....it was one of those musical experiences I'll always remember. I used to put on Giant Steps "the" killer Coltrane album and try to improvise along with Wynton Kelley on Piano, Jimmy Cobb on drums, and Paul Chambers on Bass.....and of course Trane his own self. Great FUN!!! Jazzzzzz YEAH!!!

[Samando]

Slade.... or Mellow Mang. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

He is like, so cool.

[Baron Collins-Hill]

never heard Dawg's Rag, anyone know where i can find it or anyone have tabs for it?

[Dan Cole]

Yeh, maybe thats a bit harsh or Naima being boring. As a bluegrass fan, its just sooooooooooooooo slow. Great practise for the tremelo just like DAwg says on the CD. I haven't attempted the chord yet. That could be a challenge too.

[SternART]

Yo PhishPhan........go immediately & buy the CD titled The David Grisman Quintet. New acoustic music started with this CD, every mandolin player should have it in their collection.
If ever there was a classic..probably one of the top three Grisman albums...Dawg's Rag is just one of the stellar tunes.
This was Grisman's first Quintet CD, incendiary Tony Rice & Darol Anger wails on fiddle. Originally on Kaleidascope records, now I think Rhino owns the rights.....I see them on EBAY alot.

[TheNaivePicker]

I like most of the songs on the Dawg Duos album. Good Listening.

Especially The Trenedadian Rag (I think thats how you spell it). http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[chirorehab]

I agree with SternArt... Go buy The David Grisman Quintet CD right now! - in fact also buy Hot Dawg.....

I can't get enough of either of these CD's! They are both in the disc changer in my car! Where they have been for at least the last 6 months!

It's hard to pick one song, but Dawg's Rag and Opus 57 are 2 of my current favorites!

In addition, go out a buy Tony Rice's Manzanita, too.. Legendary album & if you are a Phish Phan you will enjoy Ginseng Sullivan...

A phish phan too,

Eric

[Scotti Adams]

Sugar Hill Rag http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[paddie]

Anyone have the tab for I don't want your mandolins mister?
I really like that tune.

[elenbrandt]

The first time I heard "Dawg's Bull" it blew the top of my head off -- I remember the incident like it was yesterday. I guess that stands as my favorite. There isn't anything I don't love off of the first Quintet album," especially "Blue Midnight" (and yes, when it came out I was young and it was an album, not a CD.) It was all mind-bending at the time.

As to Darol's "Fiddlisticks" album -- the most wonderful cut on that is a Tony Rice song "Old Grey Coat".... really beautiful.

[AlanN]

The CD version of The David Grisman Quintet record (Kaleidoscope F5) has 2 additional tunes - Minor Swing and 16-16, I believe. Agree that when that record came out in 1977-78, it was mind blowing and brand new. Mandolin pickers in my neck of the woods (Tucson, AZ) learned every solo they could off that record.

[SternART]

I was in the studio during those recording sessions......those boys worked long & hard on those arrangements & getting it just right.
Old Ampex 8 track at Arch Street Studios with Billy Wolf on the board. Ahhh the good ol' days.......that album has really stood the test of time.

There was a DGQ Reunion at Wintergrass a few years back......they played the original album cut for cut.....but BETTER. They have all matured as musicians.....It has been fun watching their careers evolve.

[mandowilli]

I am also a big fan of Opus 38 but lately our group has been playing more from Dawgnation. Vivace, Dawg after Dark, and Cha Cha Chihauhua.
The musicians in the audience are always asking about those tunes...

willi


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[Dan Cole]

PAddie, The Tab for I don't want your Mandolins Mister is in the Tone Poems I book.

[chirorehab]

Lately, I have been listening to Ronnie McCoury's "Dawggone".... I believe the Dawg plays on that cut..

Eric

[mandopete]

...and yes, when it came out I was young and it was an album, not a CD
I still have my vinyl copy of that recording and aired it just a couple of weeks ago and it sounded just as good as it did back in '77.

Another cool note - when Grisman did the DGQ reunion gig at Wintergrass a couple of years ago, the band played the entire recording, in order. That was way cool!

[Spruce]

There was a DGQ Reunion at Wintergrass a few years back......they played the original album cut for cut.....but BETTER.

Never thought I'd ever mildly disagree with you Arthur, but that well-rehearsed twin-mando attack of Todd Phillips and the Dawg was a signiture of that LP and the live shows that we really haven't heard since those days, even with Mike Marshall in the 2nd mando chair as he was at Wintergrass...

Those guys had those parts nailed...

And I'll go for "Thailand" as my favorite DGQ tune...

[SternART]

I heard a strength in each players ability to solo that can only come with age and experience. That first album is a classic, but I feel like they are all better players 20 years later.

It took a DGQ Reunion to get me to my first Wgrass, now it has become a yearly pilgrimage for me.....hey.........next year I see they will be doing Tone Poems with Grisman & Rice!!!

[Lefty&French]

1) July 1977, Switzerland (BERN Gurten Park )They (David, Darol,Tony)were tourin' with Bill Keith. Tony Broke a string and they did "Opus 12". Wow! It was mind blowin!
2) Dawg's Rag or Thaïland.
3) First DGQ (Kaleïdoscope F5)is a gem!