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ShaneJ
Sep-05-2004, 7:28pm
I was looking at LMI's finishing products, and KTM-9 (new version of older KTM-4) water-based finish looks interesting. Is it really as good as laquer?
If so, wouldn't a water-based product be easier to use? What are it's disadvantages vs. laquer?
Thanks for the help!
Sailermando
Sep-08-2004, 6:35pm
SJ,
I'm in the process of finishing two mandos using the KTM-9 finish and nearing the home stretch - at the 800 grit level sanding tonite. Just layed 'em down & time for a beer...
I've only finished two mandos - both w/ SM's ColorTone Waterbase Brushing Varnish. The major disapointment with this stuff was it left a yellow/blue tint in the corners (neck/body joint) and on the inlay. The up-side: it didn't stink up the house in the winter, and actually buffed up to a nice finish, despite the off color. It was OK for my first try. Envro friendly, yadda, yaddda...
I don't have spray equip. so I have to brush or wipe.
The KTM-9 is a great improvement. The two things that stand out are: it flow'd well - no bubbles, and no off color blue tint. I'm real happy with it.
A lot boils down to technique too - you need to experiment - I've tried a regular brush, foam brush and the french polish pad technique. I settled with the regular brush in the interest of time, but I developed my own technique of dry brushing that left a real thin coat of finish. Needed more coats, but it evened out the peaks and valleys and made the level sanding easier. I think this stuff would lend it self to the french polishing technique quite well.
Only instructions on the web I found were for spraying, so I:
I brushed 5/6 coats one day, scuffed sanded w/ 320 next day , then 5/6 more coats . I tried a level sanding, but broke thru in one spot so I put about 5 more real thin coats on, let 'er sit for a week and then started sanding. That is where I am now.
Hope this helps,
Jack
ShaneJ
Sep-08-2004, 8:00pm
Thanks for the info, Jack. I have a pile of wood right now, so it'll be a while before I get to finishing. I like the sound of the KTM-9.
In building flyrods, I've switched to a new water-based finish rather than the old two-part epoxy. I've had good results with that. It's not the same thing, so I guess that doesn't necessarily mean anything. But no mixing, no fumes, non-toxic, etc. is nice if the finish comes out clear and smooth and durable. The only other question is longevity, and only time will tell for that.