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Sam Bush Fan!
Jul-31-2009, 1:26pm
I'm just starting In to this kind of music and I was just wondering If anybody knows any tips,websites,musicians,ect. In Jazz, Swing, Western Swing, Gypsy Jazz, or any other up-beat up-tempo styles of music.I know of John Reischman and Tony Williamson.If you play any of the styles listed above please help.

250sc
Jul-31-2009, 3:53pm
There are some swing chord lessons in the Lessons section of this site. Ted's book is a good introduction to playing jazz mando too.

Lots of us play jazz mando.

JeffD
Jul-31-2009, 4:04pm
Western Swing - check out Asleep at the Wheel

des mando
Jul-31-2009, 4:16pm
dix bruce has a jam trax series swing and jazz that is fun with both guitar and mando tab i think it is musixnow.com i believe he has samples on the web site he also has a gypsy jazz series , nice people, honest inexpensive

lgc
Jul-31-2009, 4:23pm
For western swing I really really live Bruner's mando player, Leo Raley. Tiny Moore is great too and he played with Bob Wills. Floyd Tillman also have Western Swing mando, but way more mellow than the other two.

Jethro Burns is great.

A good place to learn the swing rhythm parts is on the Benny Thomasson records. His son plays great parts.

For internet stuff go to petimar.com. He has some great resources.

SternART
Jul-31-2009, 5:26pm
For internet stuff go to petimar.com. He has some great resources.

Better make that http://www.petimarpress.com/

Pete Martin does have some very nice transcription books, and one on Texas Swing for Mandolin, that I have.......tunes with numerous variations, helped me start combining ideas from several, and morphing my own versions on some classic tunes. These are more for an intermediate skill & above player though.......

The Dix Bruce materials are good too, but IMO probably geared for a less experienced player. I put on the Backup Trax CD's with Dix & his band playing rhythm, set my CD player on "repeat track", and jam away over the chords.....it is fun to practice with.

Larry S Sherman
Jul-31-2009, 6:59pm
Check out Will Patton (http://www.wpatton.com/). He's great in many styles, especially jazz, Gypsy jaz, and Choro.

There's a cool concert on VPR that Will posted about available here. (http://www.vpr.net/episode/44787/)

Larry

Don Stiernberg
Aug-01-2009, 12:08am
Mandolin Magazine has a jazz column in each issue since its inception ten years ago. It's a quarterly magazine and all the other styles are covered as well.

Going back to the roots, the "Big Three" of jazz and swing mandolin are Jethro Burns, Tiny Moore, and Johnny Gimble.Jethro played with Homer and Jethro, Tiny and Johnny with Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys..

It seems like there are more of us trying to play jazz on mandolin all the time, but it's still a smaller percentage of all mandolining I think. You can knock around my site if you like---the myspace page has some tracks from my CD's, and YouTube has some live things. But promise also to check out Paul Glasse, Will Patton, Don Julin, Andy Statman, David Grisman, Gary Palsmeier, John McGann, Ted Eschliman's JazzMando.com, Michael Lampert,Hamilton de Holanda, Aaron Weinstein,Bruce Clausen. Of course I'm forgetting some of you cats and I'm sorry...(it's late..) Young cats who can play good jazz along with other styles include Eric Robertson, Dominick Leslie, and Alex Hargraves..Bryce Milano over in Philadelphia is really taking it to another level, grasping modern jazz language that say, saxophone players use. Amazing.
A case can be made that bluegrass was once an improvised style also. Was Bill Monroe a blues or jazz musician? I think in a lot of ways he was. Sam Bush is certainly a great improviser, influenced by the likes of jean-Luc Ponty and John McGlaughlin. Barry Mitterhoff can really swing and even has written some great bebop oriented tunes.Butch Baldassari moved in the jazz direction, especially his record with John Carlini. Certainly Chris Thile is a terrific improviser--everything from singing and playing in the pocket solos on old Chet Baker tunes to his own work which shows a firm grasp of tonalities and the courage to look beyond conventional use of them. Mike Marshall similarly is a deep improviser, even though much of his own music may not strike listeners as "jazz". Check out "Giant Hornpipe", a fiddle tune he wrote on the changes to John Coltrane's Giant Steps. John Reischman plays great jazz too....

But start with The Big Three: Jethro, Tiny, and Johnny. You'll love it.

John Rosett
Aug-01-2009, 12:52am
One of my favorite western swing mandolinists is Randy Elmore. He's more known for his fiddle playing, but he plays some fantastic electric mandolin on the Tom Morrell "How the west was swung" albums.

mandroid
Aug-02-2009, 11:27am
'Asleep at the Wheel' has kept up the Texas swing tradition alive , I haven't seen shows, live.
Fiddles are there , not sure about mandolin voice in the sets.

JeffD
Aug-02-2009, 3:40pm
'Asleep at the Wheel' has kept up the Texas swing tradition alive , I haven't seen shows, live.
Fiddles are there , not sure about mandolin voice in the sets.

True, but they have at times an electric mandolin, as did the Texas Playboys. I love the album with Marty Stuart on the electric mandolin. Just delightful.

Dickfive
Aug-03-2009, 10:38am
Randy Elmore and Johnny Gimble use only four strings and tune the whole deal down. A real swinging sound. To play in d,make a g chord and :whistling:so forth. Five

Geoff B
Aug-03-2009, 10:58am
Charlie Provenza plays a mean gypsy mando...

david blair
Aug-19-2009, 4:15am
There is a website called " jazzguitar.be " with many resources and links for students and teachers.

Tom Morse
Aug-19-2009, 5:07am
Mr. Stiernberg always covers it so well. Thanks, Don. Here's another cat who shades more towards blues but there are some interesting downloads here:

http://www.jimrichter.com

Learn the ii-V7-I progression.

And don't forget to listen to lots and lots of the great jazz recordings by Miles Davis's ("Kind of Blue," 50th anniversary of its release this week), Charlie Parker, Thelonious Monk, Bill Evans, Coltrane, Cannonball Adderley, Laurindo Almeida, Charlie Byrd...the list goes on and on and on...man. Have fun.