Upper frets using ffcp exercise

[DENNY7P]

FFCP EXERCISE is great.but i must be missing something.The finger positions for the upper frets, is there a chart on what fingers you use when you slide your hand up to the upper frets like---7-8 1 finger-9-10- 2 finger and so on?

[Philphool]

If I understand your question, you have options.
You can slide up till whichever finger you like is on the tonic note and then you would follow the pattern associated with that finger to generate the scale.

Is there another aspect of this that I'm not understanding?
In real life playing, you might choose a particular finger because of where you planned to go thereafter.

[DENNY7P]

Let say i'am playing tab,and it calls 4-5-7-and then 10-11-9 a friend of mine says you slide up to the 7 with your 1 finger and work from there,does that mean you use 1 finger for 7-8 and 2 finger for 9-10 and 3 finger for 11- 12 and 4 finger for 13-14 and pinky for 15???

[Philphool]

Well, in general, .... yes. What you described should work.
I notice that you have more fingers than I do. For me, my 4th finger is also my pinky. :))

Actually, I don't always follow rules quite as strictly as you describe. If a run on those 7-12 frets is followed by some notes higher or lower, I might choose fingering that will allow me to easily transition to the next run of notes.

I often find that I slide from one doublestop to another and then play note runs out of the doublestop position. Especially when the notes fall under a "stretchy" doublestop (e.g. x 6 2 x where the notes E, C#, F# might be used soon.)

[swampstomper]

Let say i'am playing tab,and it calls 4-5-7-and then 10-11-9 a friend of mine says you slide up to the 7 with your 1 finger and work from there,does that mean you use 1 finger for 7-8 and 2 finger for 9-10 and 3 finger for 11- 12 and 4 finger for 13-14 and pinky for 15???

It could work that way but it depends what comes after the 10-11-9 either on that string or others. The advantage of FFcP is that when you slide up you can anchor any of the four fingers depending on what's happening with the others. In the example you give indeed if you anchored the 1st finger on 7 you can reach 7 + 7 = 14; strictly speaking you should not do 15 from that position although you probaby can since you are on the short part of the neck.

That would be 1st FFcP and assumes that 7 is the root (if you're playing Ionian [major]). But suppose 9 is the root, you could slide up to 9 with your 1st and play 9 + 7 = 16 from there. But maybe even if 9 is the root you might want to put the 2nd there and play 2nd FFcP. Or you could anchor the 4th on 11 or the 3rd on 9, if those are the root.

What I do is analyze the whole passage and find one hand position to play it w/o moving my hand up and down (unless for effect, like slides). From one position on the fingerboard you can find various roots by starting in different FFcP.

[Rob Gerety]

Every time I read one of these threads I promise myself that I will sit down and learn FFcP. I can just tell from the little reading I've done that this is something I need to get in my skill set on mando.

[DENNY7P]

Know wonder i'am having problems,to many fingers:)):)):))

[Bruce Clausen]

In the example you give indeed if you anchored the 1st finger on 7 you can reach 7 + 7 = 14; strictly speaking you should not do 15 from that position although you probaby can since you are on the short part of the neck.

(I'm not sure I understand this 7+7=14.) To set out the same situation differently: when your first finger is at the seventh fret (fourth position in violin terminology), your fingers are positioned to reach the four scale notes from fret 7 to fret 12 or 13, in whatever key you're playing in. So with first finger at fret 7 on the E strings, you can play:

7-8-10-12 (keys of C and G major)
7-9-10-12 (keys of D and A major)
7-9-11-12 (keys of E and B major)
7-9-11-13 (key of F# major)

Of course there are also the various minor and synthetic scales. And we can slide fingers for extra notes without changing hand positions. But the basic position involves four fingers and four scale notes.

BC