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jbrwky
May-03-2009, 1:01pm
Thanks eveyone, I think. The mandolin is a Flatiron. I don't think it was the time of day or the Dalwhinnie. As Grandfather said, "Some days the magic works and some days it doesn't." It probably had more to do with pulling the mando out of the case and playing without any warm up. But no excuses, this was a fun experiment. My wife thinks I've lost my mind.
Mike Bromley
May-03-2009, 1:16pm
My wife thinks I've lost my mind.
Hey! Quit giving away secets!
billkilpatrick
May-03-2009, 1:18pm
My wife thinks I've lost my mind.
it only gets worse(er) ...
Mike Bromley
May-06-2009, 2:29pm
Oh drat, the blockers have made uploading Youtubes an impossibility. So much for my Mandolin Hero Whiskey spoof from the Zagros Mountains.....
Chris Keth
May-09-2009, 10:32am
I found a couple of other tabbed out versions, both in D. I thought i'd toss them up here for the interest and variety.
From the MandolinSessions.com Website (http://archive.mandolinsessions.com/aug06/whiskey.html) - This one is pretty much what most people here played.
From FolkoftheWood.com (http://www.folkofthewood.com/page4971.htm) - This one's a little bit different than what most people played. The A part is quite different and, though I haven't tried it, it looks like it would make a nice harmony part to the "standard" version.
Mandophyte
May-12-2009, 11:05am
Mike Bromley,
I see you have Dasani there.
It was taken off the shelves here in the UK - they got took good water from a tap in Sidcup (SE London) and put benzine in it!
journeybear
May-12-2009, 12:07pm
I found a couple of other tabbed out versions, both in D. I thought i'd toss them up here for the interest and variety.
The Mel Bay version is pretty straightforward and easy to understand. The Folk Of The Woods one is indeed quite different from what seems to be the commonly accepted melody. You would think someone taking the time to write this put would be aware of that and title it "Variation" or something similar.
Chris Keth
May-12-2009, 1:02pm
The Mel Bay version is pretty straightforward and easy to understand. The Folk Of The Woods one is indeed quite different from what seems to be the commonly accepted melody. You would think someone taking the time to write this put would be aware of that and title it "Variation" or something similar.
It almost reads to me as a harmony line.
Mike Bromley
May-12-2009, 1:54pm
Mike Bromley,I see you have Dasani there.It was taken off the shelves here in the UK - they got took good water from a tap in Sidcup (SE London) and put benzine in it!Aye. Let's face it, a lot of "Spring Water" is claptrap. We pay prices four times that of gasoline for the privelege. One faucet-mounted microfilter with charcoal will do the same, for the cost of about ten bottles of "Eau de Source".
Ray Neuman
May-16-2009, 8:49am
Ok, so here is my first video, first attempt, first take and first recorded item. I am playing the Brentrup my benefactor has lent me. I promise to serve a better offering next time. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3OJlmaSVW8
billkilpatrick
May-16-2009, 8:57am
Ok, so here is my first video, first attempt, first take and first recorded item. I am playing the Brentrup my benefactor has lent me. I promise to serve a better offering next time. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3OJlmaSVW8
the snoopy pj's say it all ... coffee for breakfast!?! ... now there's an idea.
great sounding mandolin - those few "pick-a-dillos" aside, well played.
Santiago
May-16-2009, 10:05am
Whiskey for Breakfast... so that's how the Dulcimer got hammered.
Chris Keth
Jun-06-2009, 1:42pm
I've got a really late one. I received my new-to-me A9 yesterday and put new strings on and just had to record something. It's all kinds of sloppy, enjoy!
Jill McAuley
Jun-06-2009, 3:24pm
How're you liking that A9, Chris? It sure sounds nice! Well done on the tune as well!
Cheers,
Jill
Chris Keth
Jun-06-2009, 3:39pm
How're you liking that A9, Chris? It sure sounds nice! Well done on the tune as well!
Cheers,
Jill
I haven't even had it for 24 hours and I absolutely love it. It's got a nice throaty chop and the bass is nice and rich. The fullerton was pretty good to start with but chords just sounded shrill to me. This is a thousand percent better.
Ray Neuman
Jun-06-2009, 4:33pm
EXCELLENT JOB CHRIS! I really enjoyed your version, and love how almost every one is a bit different. I do love the sound of your A-9. When the day comes for me to get a lifer, that is on the short list.
Thank you for sharing your playing, wonderful job!
Chris Keth
Jun-06-2009, 4:38pm
EXCELLENT JOB CHRIS! I really enjoyed your version, and love how almost every one is a bit different. I do love the sound of your A-9. When the day comes for me to get a lifer, that is on the short list.
Thank you for sharing your playing, wonderful job!
If you want to hear a little more of the A9 (I really feel like this is an especially good one) I made a video that's out on a thread in general discussion. I haven't even had it a day yet but enough people have asked me about that I just decided to make a quick video to illustrate its sound.
Ray Neuman
Jun-06-2009, 4:42pm
Thank you Chris, I will check it out. My short list includes the A-9, a Breedlove OO or an Eastman/Jade/loar.
fatt-dad
Jun-07-2009, 8:12pm
Dear MC Forum: By receipt of this message, I make an oath to take the whiskey before, "Whiskey Before Breakfast" challenge. I am developing the concept, which will likley include a friend (videographer, whiskey drinker), the beach mandolin, and some surf. I'll be on cigar. I'm building courage and feel the public committment will help.
I'm heading to the Outer Banks in a week, so this may be a few weeks before the public eye.
f-d
Mike Bromley
Jun-07-2009, 8:20pm
the beach mandolin
That's a "Sandolin"~:>
Schlegel
Jun-07-2009, 9:01pm
That's a "Sandolin"~:>
Strandolin!
Mike Bromley
Jun-07-2009, 9:05pm
Strandolin!
OF Course! I was playing out of Dune! :disbelief:
My Mandogeomorphology is getting rusty, I'll admit.:confused:
billkilpatrick
Jun-07-2009, 11:52pm
Dear MC Forum: By receipt of this message, I make an oath to take the whiskey before, "Whiskey Before Breakfast" challenge. I am developing the concept, which will likley include a friend (videographer, whiskey drinker), the beach mandolin, and some surf. I'll be on cigar. I'm building courage and feel the public committment will help.
I'm heading to the Outer Banks in a week, so this may be a few weeks before the public eye.
f-d
"whiskey before breakfast" with whiskey AND! cigar certainly raises the stakes. add a heaving deck, undulating horizon line and we may have a winner ...
in "roughing it" mark twain mentions an old salt who took a snort in the morning to "sweeten the bilge water."
coraggio!
fatt-dad
Jun-08-2009, 6:34am
p.s., I'll not practice. I'm going for raw! And, I won't be on no stinking deck! It'll be within 20 ft of the crashing waves. No comments on the physique, please!
f-d
I did not see this subject!! I posted my own in songs and tune projects. I'm sorry. Aaackk.
billkilpatrick
Jun-08-2009, 3:38pm
I did not see this subject!! I posted my own in songs and tune projects. I'm sorry. Aaackk.
that's ok ... barman hasn't called "last round" yet ...
Soupy1957
Jun-09-2009, 5:14am
The original posting in this thread, played a very provocative version of Whiskey Before Breakfast, that "I" think is worth building on. It opens up a whole new approach to that song........
journeybear
Jun-09-2009, 1:42pm
... in "roughing it" mark twain mentions an old salt who took a snort in the morning to "sweeten the bilge water."
I've run into a few people who used this approach to "sweeten" their morning coffee, from a crusty senior co-worker when I was surveying for oil and natural gas in western PA to my friend Patrick Sky, the cool-uncle-I-never-had, who liked to "sweeten" his morning Postum (don't knock it if you haven't tried it). I call it "Tennessee coffee," as I likes me bourbon from time to time. I did once go to the dockside bar in Oakland CA which claimed to be the birthplace of Irish whiskey. I've been told more than once by Irish people that it's definitely an American invention, as no Irish whiskey drinker would ever drink it any way but straight, and certainly not gussy it up with coffee, sugar, and whipped cream. To each his own. I think it's a great pick-me-up, especially on a clammy day. I'm usually careful to cool the coffee a bit before adding the whiskey, though - don't want too much to evaporate, you know! ;) ... :whistling: ... :mandosmiley:
Bertram Henze
Jun-10-2009, 4:51am
[QUOTE=journeybear;676513I did once go to the dockside bar in Oakland CA which claimed to be the birthplace of Irish whiskey. I've been told more than once by Irish people that it's definitely an American invention, as no Irish whiskey drinker would ever drink it any way but straight, and certainly not gussy it up with coffee, sugar, and whipped cream. [/QUOTE]
From the description, I'd guess you mean the so-called Irish coffee. I would classify that as a barman's fancy, not connected to Irish reality. California as a birthplace seem plausible to me.
Not all cocktail creations are American, though. The Scots have funny mixtures with Scotch Whisky - Toddy, Crabbie's, Drambuie - one of these days I'll have to try "Bannockburn" (you know "Bloody Mary"? Replace the Vodka with Scotch and the Worcestershire sauce with Tabasco - that's it).
Bertram
billkilpatrick
Jun-10-2009, 7:34am
... funny mixtures with Scotch Whisky - Toddy, Crabbie's, Drambuie - one of these days I'll have to try "Bannockburn" (you know "Bloody Mary"? Replace the Vodka with Scotch and the Worcestershire sauce with Tabasco - that's it).
gaaa ... aaaccc ... ccckkk ...
i understood that a barman at shannon airport, in ireland was the inventor of "irish coffe." in the early days of trans-atlantic flight, shannon was the closest european airport to the united states and after (?) hours in a propeller driven plane, passengers welcomed the wake-up kick in the head the drink gave them.
fatt-dad
Jun-19-2009, 9:41am
the haunting tone of the "Montana." the rusty strings (even though they were on for less than a week). the technique! Here it is (well maybe. . .)
"Cigar before Breakfast"
Enjoy!
f-d
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/fatt-dad/th_whiskeybeforebreakfast.jpg (http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/fatt-dad/?action=view¤t=whiskeybeforebreakfast.flv)
http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/fatt-dad/?action=view¤t=whiskeybeforebreakfast.flv
billkilpatrick
Jun-19-2009, 9:51am
"wish-key 'efor 'reckfish" - 10 out of 10 ... bravissimo!
journeybear
Jun-19-2009, 11:08am
Very nice, a sunny, breezy version :)) rusty strings and all. Someone should have a word with the young lady in the background, trying to steal the show from you. The nerve! :grin:
Dan Hoover
Jun-19-2009, 11:21am
[QUOTE=fatt-dad;680729]the haunting tone of the "Montana." the rusty strings (even though they were on for less than a week). the technique! Here it is (well maybe. . .)
"Cigar before Breakfast"
Enjoy!
i'm sorry..what did you say??something was going on behind you..
Bertram Henze
Jun-19-2009, 11:35am
Considering that background entertainment, it comes quite near to my earlier suggestion of "playing at dangerous places" :))
What a cool show. That can only be topped by Lee "Pen" Gwin playing outside McMurdo in condition 1 weather.
Bertram
journeybear
Jun-19-2009, 11:44am
BTW f-d, I forgot to mention - thanks for coming through on your promise!
Dear MC Forum: By receipt of this message, I make an oath to take the whiskey before, "Whiskey Before Breakfast" challenge. I am developing the concept, which will likely include a friend (videographer, whiskey drinker), the beach mandolin, and some surf. I'll be on cigar. I'm building courage and feel the public committment will help.
Though you do appear to be just slightly farther than 20 feet from the, ah, gently lapping waves ... but that is of little consequence. And so, as you have satisfactorily delivered on your promise, I will honor your request re: comments re: physique, but I will say that you do appear younger without the beard! Fresh air and sunshine notwithstanding. Then again, it could be the cigars and whiskey, or is it a whiskey-soaked cigar? :confused: Oh, that's right - it's the music! The mandolin! That's it, the Fountain Of Youth is the mandolin!!! :mandosmiley:
Eddie Sheehy
Jun-19-2009, 11:47am
gaaa ... aaaccc ... ccckkk ...
i understood that a barman at shannon airport, in ireland was the inventor of "irish coffe." in the early days of trans-atlantic flight, shannon was the closest european airport to the united states and after (?) hours in a propeller driven plane, passengers welcomed the wake-up kick in the head the drink gave them.
Not really Shannon. It was Foynes - where the flying-boats landed in the 40's. Joe Sheridan "invented" it to warm-up the passengers in their wee-hours stop-over. After the closure of Foynes Airport, Joe moved his Irish Coffee to Shannon in the age of the jet (Boeing 707).
The Buena Vista bar, near the tram-stop in San Francisco pier-land (not Oakland) imported the Irish Coffee to America...
It's still a waste of good whiskey and you end up with wide-awake drunks...
the haunting tone of the "Montana." the rusty strings (even though they were on for less than a week). the technique! Here it is (well maybe. . .)
"Cigar before Breakfast"
Enjoy!
You lose some weight? Good tune F-D! Do more.
journeybear
Jun-19-2009, 12:07pm
The Buena Vista bar, near the tram-stop in San Francisco pier-land (not Oakland) imported the Irish Coffee to America...
It's still a waste of good whiskey and you end up with wide-awake drunks...
Thanks for getting that right. I still recall this being on the East Bay, as I was living in Berkeley at the time, and I believe that's what my friends told me ... well, it was a looong time ago, and I was neither drunk nor wide awake. ;) I agree that it's, well, not a waste, but a diminishing of good whiskey. In fact, I find it's a pretty good way to get through a gig. Still, there are worse things one can do to whiskey ... like tabasco?!?!? Yikes! :disbelief:
Eddie Sheehy
Jun-19-2009, 12:37pm
Actually another story I've heard is that Joe didn't invent it as such. A Yank asked him for a Calypso Coffee - Tia Maria in coffee - and Joe improvised...
fatt-dad
Jun-19-2009, 1:16pm
p.s., it's my daughter. She seems like one day she may try the mandolin.
re: the beard - that was a three month experiment several years ago.
re: the weight - Ha! up 10 and down 10 - never know, but hanging at the beach always includes too much butter.
Thanks for the kind words.
f-d
Mike Bromley
Jun-19-2009, 9:25pm
Strandolin, indeed.
man dough nollij
Jun-19-2009, 10:15pm
That can only be topped by Lee "Pen" Gwin playing outside McMurdo in condition 1 weather.
Bertram
I'm trying to put something together, but I can't seem to find my bikini...:whistling:
Love this thread.....
My version is in the pipeline...
Soon as I get my mandolin back from repair....
Don't hold your breath it will not come close to some of the great versions of this tune I've witnessed here....
Gotta say I have been greatly inspired by you all.
Cheers.
billkilpatrick
Jun-20-2009, 3:32am
Love this thread..... My version is in the pipeline... Soon as I get my mandolin back from repair....
nothing major with your mandolin, i hope! ...
with this (hopefully) brief hiatus in the music you'll be able to elevate your whiskey drinking skills to a perfect "10" perhaps.
journeybear
Jun-20-2009, 6:46am
I'm trying to put something together, but I can't seem to find my bikini...:whistling:
Whew! Imagine our relief! Again, whew!!! :) ... :grin: ... :whistling:
Santiago
Jun-20-2009, 9:41am
I think the constant rain is having its impact.
fatt-dad
Jun-21-2009, 2:17pm
Just to see if the YouTube embedment works and figure out how to use the MC "YouTube" button. Same haunting tone and all. . . .
f-d
Just to see if the YouTube embedment works and figure out how to use the MC "YouTube" button. Same haunting tone and all. . . .
f-d
Talk about haunting.... I see Fatt people..
You really need to do more of these.
Lou Scuderi
Jun-23-2009, 7:05pm
Here's my humble submission:
I hope I didn't screw it up too badly, I just learned the tune about an hour ago. I think the second part isn't quite right, but that's what sounded and felt right to me.
Lou Scuderi
Jun-23-2009, 7:28pm
Woahhey, I didn't realize I was so late on this one. Sorry about that, everybody!
billkilpatrick
Jun-23-2009, 11:05pm
late-shmate ... that was good!
Bertram Henze
Jun-24-2009, 1:07am
Lou, that was really cool - whisky before playing (dangerous, it limits the number of takes, and each one is likely to be worse than the previous one), a perfectly legal version of the tune, a perfectly legal Speyside Scotch (The Glenlivet was one of the first legal distilleries in Scotland).
Is that M27 in your avatar?
Bertram
Lou Scuderi
Jun-24-2009, 6:04pm
Bertram, that is indeed M27, good eyes. I took it sometime last year on the Kuiper 61" Telescope when I was bored on an observing trip once waiting for our object to rise. I keep meaning to bring the mando up, but I always forget.
fatt-dad
Jun-24-2009, 6:23pm
Nice job Lou!
f-d
Douglas McMullin
Jul-05-2009, 7:20am
Just when you thought this thread was dead...
I recently decided to get a video camera to capture our 14th month old, and in figuring it out, along with processing the videos, I decided to do a little mandolin test. Here are two quickly recorded versions of Whiskey Before Breakfast. I only allows myself a single take for each, so please excuse the imperfections on my Youtube debut :)
FYI - Both mandolins have Elixir Mediums & I am using the same Wegen M150 in each clip.
OldSausage
Jul-05-2009, 11:06am
Nice. If it was me, I would be selling the Phoenix.
Douglas McMullin
Jul-05-2009, 11:55am
The Phoenix is nearly new and has had little break in time. The Collings has had loads of play and seems to have hit its sweet spot, but I think it took me a good year or more of playing until it really came into its own. The Phoenix does seem a little "tight" if you will, but I love the playability and I am banking on it opening up quite a bit.
I'm actually surprised how similar they both sound in these clips compared to what I hear when playing them.
I've run into a few people who used this approach to "sweeten" their morning coffee, ...). I call it "Tennessee coffee," as I likes me bourbon from time to time. :
My favorite fictional detective, Matthew Scudder, takes a shot of bourbon in his coffee, to take the edge off the caffeine.
The few times I have had a whiskey before breakfast, it was after an all night May Day party with a shot in the morning around the May Pole.
OldSausage
Jul-05-2009, 2:32pm
The Phoenix is nearly new and has had little break in time. The Collings has had loads of play and seems to have hit its sweet spot, but I think it took me a good year or more of playing until it really came into its own. The Phoenix does seem a little "tight" if you will, but I love the playability and I am banking on it opening up quite a bit.
I'm actually surprised how similar they both sound in these clips compared to what I hear when playing them.
I had to put on some good quality headphones to hear the difference, but once I did, it was quite clear. I didn't mean to suggest there was anything wrong with the Phoenix, it's just that the Collings sounds really great. Does the Collings not have as good playability as the Phoenix?
Douglas McMullin
Jul-05-2009, 2:37pm
Does the Collings not have as good playability as the Phoenix?
They both are extremely playable for my hands, but I am liking the wider nut on the Phoenix.
woodwizard
Jul-05-2009, 3:44pm
They both sound pretty good to me. Maybe the Collings sounds slightly smoother or more rounded but as you mentioned when the Phoenix wakes up a little with some playing time put on it you may prefer it over the Collings. Both are are quality indtruments.
billkilpatrick
Jul-05-2009, 3:53pm
They both are extremely playable for my hands, but I am liking the wider nut on the Phoenix.
comfort counts ... heaps.
really nice renditions - choosing between your two mandolins, i'd say you had a "win-win" situation.
complimenti - an accomplished youtube debut!
Nice picking, Douglas. Very hard to go wrong when you have a Phoenix and a Collings at your disposal! I'd keep both!
Mark Robertson-Tessi
Jul-09-2009, 12:58am
All right, I know it's late, but here's my submission. I probably had a little too much fun making this one. Enjoy.
Cheers
Mark R-T
Rob Powell
Jul-09-2009, 2:52am
Wicked Mark! Both the playing and production! If it's not a secret, how did you monitor one or the other while recording?
Bertram Henze
Jul-09-2009, 7:15am
Whoa! Mark and Mark II - that setting reminds me of your video of Morro Glen with Tim Weed. Absolutely absolute!
Leaves us all standing.
Bertram
OldSausage
Jul-09-2009, 8:18am
Wonderful, Mark, great playing and a great arrangement.
Richard Moore
Jul-09-2009, 8:42am
Hi Mark,
I've been following this thread with interest as WBB is one of my regular session tunes. Your version with Mark is a very fine one!
Mark Robertson-Tessi
Jul-09-2009, 1:19pm
Wicked Mark! Both the playing and production! If it's not a secret, how did you monitor one or the other while recording?
I recorded the mandolin side first, and then put the audio track onto my ipod. I had an earbud in my right ear when I did the guitar track (had to be careful not to face the camera straight ahead!) and just followed along while recording. Then I lined everything up in Premiere.
Cheers
Mark
Hollywood!!!! That's gonna be hard to beat Mark. Great job on mandolin and guitar. Holy Cow if you had a twin I can only imagine the chaos. :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
fatt-dad
Jul-09-2009, 7:57pm
Mark, that was just great! Very well done.
f-d
journeybear
Jul-09-2009, 8:35pm
Nice job, Mark. Except for that guitar player - I mean, he shows up to the session wearing ripped jeans, no shoes, and then starts just making up chord patterns like it's jazz or something. Then when you back him up, he starts acting like he's Django Reinhardt or something, all up and down the neck. Good thing you knew the tune, because you had to carry it all yourself. That other guy - man! Just too goofy! You see what mandolin players have to put up with? Sheesh!!! :mad:
... :whistling: ...
Hey, that was great! I guess you actually went and changed, took off your shoes, etc. before recording the other part. The glass clinking, fist-hand high five - you must have practiced. Nice playing too!
Rob Wallace
Jul-09-2009, 9:18pm
That was a great arrangement and very creative video Mark. Couldn't help but thinking of John Doyle listening to your rhythym guitar playing.
Patrick Hull
Jul-10-2009, 4:50am
Very good job, Mark. Really blew me away.
Gerry Cassidy
Jul-10-2009, 5:05am
Mark,
That was just KILLER!
My only question is, where were you for the 20 years I lived in Az?!?!?:))
It would have been great to jam with ya'!
Mark Robertson-Tessi
Jul-10-2009, 12:14pm
Nice job, Mark. Except for that guitar player - I mean, he shows up to the session wearing ripped jeans, no shoes, and then starts just making up chord patterns like it's jazz or something. Then when you back him up, he starts acting like he's Django Reinhardt or something, all up and down the neck. Good thing you knew the tune, because you had to carry it all yourself. That other guy - man! Just too goofy! You see what mandolin players have to put up with? Sheesh!!! :mad:
I know. I'm thinking about not playing with him anymore, but he's a real pest, always following me around and with a poor attitude to boot. He's playing in Flagstaff tomorrow, I'm going to see if I can ditch him there.
Cheers
MRT
Mark Robertson-Tessi
Jul-10-2009, 12:17pm
Mark,
That was just KILLER!
My only question is, where were you for the 20 years I lived in Az?!?!?:))
It would have been great to jam with ya'!
I've been here since '01, but I wasn't in the mando scene until a few years later. When were you here?
Cheers
MRT
Yeah, nice playing and all that, but you know what, not sure which but one of those guys is an accordion player. Just saying...:whistling:
Mark Robertson-Tessi
Aug-01-2009, 2:37pm
Yeah, nice playing and all that, but you know what, not sure which but one of those guys is an accordion player. Just saying...:whistling:
Hey, what happens at the contradance, stays at the contradance...
Cheers
Mark
billkilpatrick
Aug-01-2009, 6:41pm
mark - that was excellent - complimentissimo!
tea, eh?! ... what brand?
HddnKat
Aug-07-2009, 7:39pm
Late to the dance, but I just had to try
Alright Kat. Good job. ~:>~:>~:>~:>~:>
billkilpatrick
Aug-08-2009, 1:24am
what a lovely, funky version that was! - great stuff!
Mike Bromley
Feb-27-2011, 9:36pm
All right, I know it's late, but here's my submission. I probably had a little too much fun making this one. Enjoy.
A late revisit...SLICK!!!