View Full Version : what a mandolin and pandeiro can do togheter
marcos p
Dec-03-2008, 5:18am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpbraMNacyE
hamilton de holanda and Marcos Suzano
this week in Paris worth seeing
groveland
Dec-03-2008, 5:46am
"what a mandolin and pandeiro can do together"
... and a perfect sense of time, unlimited facility with the instrument, formidable talent, steeped in the culture... Gee, how do I get there from here?!
Love the pandeiro. No need for a drum kit, eh? Thanks for the post.
mandolooter
Dec-03-2008, 7:17am
yea...thats rockin!
JEStanek
Dec-03-2008, 7:26am
Figure I might as well try the video embedding option...
Jamie
marcos p
Dec-03-2008, 11:14am
JEStanek i love the picture
Larry S Sherman
Dec-03-2008, 11:49am
Great video!
I started taking beginning pandeiro lessons (http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/blog.php?b=14) and find it helps my mando playing as well.
Larry
marcos p
Dec-04-2008, 6:35am
this one was the first time ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOC3Bspxt8
the concert same night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOSyEDRLPhQ&feature=related
Amy Burcham
Dec-04-2008, 7:09am
OK, I am going into my day feeling GREAT.
Thanks!!!!!!!!!
groveland
Dec-04-2008, 9:57am
I started taking beginning pandeiro lessons and find it helps my mando playing as well.
Which brings up a point... I was so impressed with the pandeiro possibilities, I bought one a few weeks ago to do a tune. There are lots of lessons/examples on the web. The main criteria to me was a big sound, and I was warned about the idiosyncratic goatskin. So I got a 12 inch 'modern' synthetic one. Here's the mando content: Go for a smaller wood and goatskin version, unless you have a bionic left hand. Playing this heavy 'modern' beast requires at least a few moments of recovery before switching back to mando! (Also, it's pretty impossible for me to get the 'rasp' on the synthetic behmoth.)
Still, it's the percussion instrument of the future.
marcos p
Dec-04-2008, 5:03pm
my dear groveland
suzano just finish video lessons - he is the miles of the pandeiro
and soon will be available - he plays goat skin
he told me that there is an excelent american pandeiro
i will get the brand
another tip do everything slow because it`s much difficult to play slow tempo then fast tempo
more to came
groveland
Dec-04-2008, 5:05pm
My Dear Marcos -
Thanks! I am looking forward to it!
Doug Hoople
Dec-08-2008, 11:51am
Nice!
Years of study for us in that 8-minute video.
Excellent stuff!
marcos p
Dec-08-2008, 4:49pm
my dears the american brand of the pandeiro that SUZANO uses is COOPERMAN
here another video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCIT-o21-ng
groveland
Dec-08-2008, 6:45pm
my dears the american brand of the pandeiro that SUZANO uses is COOPERMAN
here another video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCIT-o21-ng
Wow, what a band. :) I looked into Cooperman - The local 'ethnic' percussion shop doesn't carry them. (But they'd love to, they said!) Saw their site - Clearly for the serious percissionist...
Thanks for the video, again!
marcos p
Dec-09-2008, 3:20pm
whenever you find the link please add so whoever want it - can have the benefith. They gave this pandeiro to SUZANO for him to try and he love it, eavn tought it is a lit bit different from the brazilian one, it`s more similar to arabic actualy it is a fusion
all the best
Doug Hoople
Dec-09-2008, 4:14pm
This turned up on a Google search. Looks like the right place.
Cooperman Pandeiro (http://www.cooperman.com/coopermanpandeiro.php)
Hmmm... very tempting!
Just what I need, though. I have a hard enough time with the mandolin. The pandeiro is a major commitment to learn!
groveland
Dec-09-2008, 10:03pm
This turned up on a Google search. Looks like the right place.
Cooperman Pandeiro (http://www.cooperman.com/coopermanpandeiro.php)
Hmmm... very tempting!
Just what I need, though. I have a hard enough time with the mandolin. The pandeiro is a major commitment to learn!
Yes, that's their site. I am looking into the REMOŽ cloth/mylar head they talk about, but haven't found it yet...
By the way, mando backs make pretty good hand drums. My Eastman 614 oval has been recruited in that role lately. :)
marcos p
Dec-10-2008, 8:22am
a new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcU2dU8TqlA
marcos p
Dec-10-2008, 8:28am
a new video
marcos p
Dec-11-2008, 5:25am
this video is in rome - 30/11/2008
marcos p
Dec-11-2008, 7:04am
A tune from the great Dorival Caymmi - Maracangalha
Jim MacDaniel
Dec-11-2008, 10:40am
Wow -- that is hot! (Now I just need a 10-string mandolin -- and about 10 - 20 more years of practice)
Steve Jeter
Dec-11-2008, 12:20pm
That was very cool! I wish I could find somebody who wanted to just play precussion with me. But it seems there not many out there who are satisfied with playing drums. I ve never seen anybody who didnt want to sit behind a drumset, or play a Djembe for a while ,, including me . But to keep at for a long time you gotta really be into it. Even my old drummer who was quite good , was always waiting to get from behind there and play guitar.
groveland
Dec-11-2008, 5:54pm
Oh... my... gosh. I am undone.
Marcos -
Now that I have my breath back and my pulse is stable, what does Suzano use for a pickup on that pandeiro?
marcos p
Dec-12-2008, 5:28pm
it is a shure SM 98 Beta.
I found this thread searching google for info on pandeiros and thought even though it was a mandolin site I'd chime in. I've been learning pandeiro for a few months now and wanted to share some links that have been very helpful for me:
1. source for getting nice pandeiros shipped from brazil to the US, also has some books and videos and a bunch of information: http://www.pandeiro.com
2. instructional video from marcos suzano: http://www.knockonwood.co.uk/details.asp/percussion/3255/buy/pandeiro_brasileiro.htm
(the site is in the UK but when I ordered the DVD it arrived in just three days. Fast!)
3. another instructional video, this one is in portugese only but the subtitles are good and the slo-motion teaching method works great. I've really enjoyed this set: http://www.pandeiro.pro.br/english/index-eng.shtml
I love pandeiro. Such a cool little drum. I gave up on playing guitar a while ago, decided to try my hand at drums and decided to make pandeiro my first one after a friend showed me it.
just because it's cool, another youtube video with amazing pandeiro playing:
whenever you find the link please add so whoever want it - can have the benefith. They gave this pandeiro to SUZANO for him to try and he love it, eavn tought it is a lit bit different from the brazilian one, it`s more similar to arabic actualy it is a fusion
all the best
Hi, do you know if he's using the one with the mylar/cloth head or the more usual goat skin?
groveland
Jan-01-2009, 9:40am
I love pandeiro. Such a cool little drum. I gave up on playing guitar a while ago, decided to try my hand at drums and decided to make pandeiro my first one after a friend showed me it.
just because it's cool, another youtube video with amazing pandeiro playing...
Thanks, Dave, for the resources.
Okay, so I'm going to see if we can take one last liberty with the OP... Here's what can be done on pandeiro, bass, and guitar to a tune I typically hear on a bandolim - Alessandro Penezzi:
New Year's resolution: I quit. (Just kidding. :grin: )
marcos p
Jan-11-2009, 2:55am
hey davef
he is using a goat skin. The video that you post it the tecnich of the player is midium
I recomend besides marcos suzano - 2 young pandeiro players
Bernardo Aguiar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FULasf705zU here a video he with 17 years old, http://www.pandeiro.com/bernardo.php
and Sergio Krakowski http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRqqc2lr_H0
there is a american here in rio who is devoting all his enery to the pandeiro Scott Feiner he has a website www.pandeiro.com