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Ok, so things have been a little slow up here in the upper sections of the boards, so I thought I'd go lurking down in the classical section {My first visit}.
#what a hoot
#Just when I thought I was getting comfortable with the mandolin, I find a whole new language .Here is just a sample thread, but almost any thread would work.Sample (http://www.mandolincafe.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=6;t=15782)
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Good heavens these guys are on a completely different level. [Or in a different world] One thing that impressed me was that even though their music is very different from what I play, the humor and comradery are exactly the same .
If you get a chance, take a look.
Oh heck ,I just can't resist. Here is another
sample 2 (http://www.mandolincafe.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=6;t=16152)
It's really amazing that such diverse groups can exist on the same site.
Thanks Scott T.
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fatt-dad
Jun-24-2004, 6:04pm
It feels wrong to eavesdrop on such nice people - ha. I am not quite sure what they are talking about, but do you note that there is little reference to what types of mandolins they play. They discuss the actual playing!
good work b.pat.
fatt-dad
mpeknox
Jun-24-2004, 7:49pm
sheesh...the only people i know that play mandolin don't read music and usually play standing in a barn or field. there's a whole 'nother world out there that i didn't even know about.
Jim Garber
Jun-24-2004, 8:00pm
Hah! You have discovered our little secret! I have been pretty deeply involved in this corner of the board for some time now and it is like a little coffee klatsch, meeting of the minds etc. it is very helpful to run things by my cyberfriends when I need to or just to vent.
BTW I came originally from that world of playing in a field without sheet music so I can relate to that also.
Also, there are some threads on types of mandolins, brands etc. But you will notice (if you dare) that these are rarely, if ever, of the F5-persuasion or even Gibson style anything. Many of the instruments are the normally much-maligned bowlbacks. Imagine that!
Jim
Unseen122
Jun-24-2004, 8:43pm
I came from the world of sheet music then started mando and still sheet music and I play Irish style. Weird right?
Bob A
Jun-24-2004, 10:03pm
Well, I started with an accordion (!), went to guitar and Gibson mandolin; now I'm surrounded by bowlbacks. I can't say whether I've been climbing the evolutionary ladder, or maybe fell off and hit my head. But I gotta say, I prefer playing sitting down. I've always been a lazy guy.
mandosage
Jun-25-2004, 4:57am
This was agreat post! The only thing missing from these links is Nyles & Frasier
Eugene
Jun-25-2004, 5:05am
Hey, I don't know what to do with these tossed salads and scrambled eggs.
It reminds me of when I started reading Patrick O'Brian novels. I had to buy the companion book A Sea of Words: A Lexicon and Companion for Patrick O'Brian's Seafaring Tales just so I could understand what he was talking about. Maybe Alex could write a similar companion book for us classical dummies with a limited vocabulary. I can see the title now #"Autodidacticism and other fitty cent words for the self learnt" # http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
GVD
Jgarber #Jim,
Glad you noticed my post. Hope you take it in the manner in which it was written. It would be really hard to not have a great deal of respect for someone with a greater knowledge of the musical universe. I have read several of your post, and find them both amuseing and informative.
#But maybe you could explain a part of one for me.
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Lean your right arm on the upper part of the mandoline, neither too high nor too low: so that your hand lies across the harmonical-board.
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Keep the wrist a little bent and about an inch away from the trestle.
The other fingers of this hand must be open – the little finger slides on the harmonical board and it is a guide for the tremelo.
You know, this thread has the potential to be fun.
# # Respectfully,
# # # B.Pat
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Unseen122
Jun-25-2004, 8:10am
Hey, I don't know what to do with these tossed salads and scrambled eggs.
Thought they took Fraiser off the air. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
jbrwky
Jun-25-2004, 9:12am
Yea, I did a 17-uplet once. Couldn't walk for a week.
vkioulaphides
Jun-25-2004, 9:44am
Well, b.pat...
"Lean your right arm on the upper part of the mandoline, neither too high nor too low: so that your hand lies across the harmonical-board."
If you discount the idiomatic usage, and bear in mind that "harmonical-board" (piano armonico in Italian) is simply the soundboard, you see exactly what the author meant about the position of the arm in reference to the instrument. This reading-by-discount approach, of course, also applies to many other, translated texts.
Reminds me of a posted regulation at a French-speaking, Swiss ski resort:
"Perambulation of corridors while in boots of ascension during hours dormant and of repose strictly prohibited."
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In plain English: Don't walk around the resonant, wooden-floor halls in your ski-boots while other people are trying to sleep!
Cheers,
Victor
EasyEd
Jun-25-2004, 9:59am
Hey All,
I's a bettin Big Mon couldda played all dat stuff - proly did in is spare time.
On a related note I actually this week decided to start reading notation instead of just tab. I Figured out Will The Circle Be Unbroken using notation only. Man what a chore the process was kinda like this:
Ok that note is on the one two third line ok so every good boy ok it's a B note ok so now which string pair would that B note be on lets try the G string pair wait better check how high an low the other notes in the song are nope can't be the G string pair mmm how bout the A pair lets see do any of these other notes go too high no ok lets figure it out from here the next note is in the third space ok so f a c oh it's a C note ok there is no B sharp or C flat note so one fret up ok next note is...
Now I'm working on Arkansas Traveler the same way. I was gonna try Midnight Special but it has a sharp in it which is ok but it also has a symbol I don't recognise - sort of a square with the upper left and lower right corners extended - it's not a flat (b) and it's not a sharp (#) so I have no idea what it is or what to do with it. Man I hope this gets easier.
I think I've got a ways to go before I catch up with the guys in the sample threads - maybe by next week... http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Anyway it really is wonderful that this board has such diversity in mandolin players. Kudos to Scott and to all of us!
Take Care! -Ed-
I wonder how much maintenance Scott needs to perform down there?
John Bertotti
Jun-25-2004, 10:14am
EasyEd, I just learned that one. It's called a natural and is there to remind you to play it that way. Ie. not sharp or flat. Heck I just learned there are double sharps and double flats which raise or lower a note by two half steps. The double flat is two flat symbols but the double sharp looks to me like a x boxed out a bit. It's a crazy crazy language and I feel your pain. Have fun, John http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
classical section- i'm scared to go there. they all seem nice, but are speaking in tongues. maybe i'll get the courage some day, after all i do have a taterbug.:)
Jim Garber
Jun-25-2004, 10:31am
#But #maybe you could explain a part of one for me.
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Lean your right arm on the upper part of the mandoline, neither too high nor too low: so that your hand lies across the harmonical-board.
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Keep the wrist a little bent and about an inch away from the trestle.
The other fingers of this hand must be open – the little finger slides on the harmonical board and it is a guide for the tremelo.
Hi b.pat:
That was a direct quote from a method book by the Italian master Carlo Munier, who, I assume, never spoke much English, nor did anyone at his publisher. I loved the fractured translation like harmonical-board (for sound board) and trestle (for bridge).
No, I do not normally talk that way. I am of usually speaking excellent harmonical mouth English http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Jim
Thanks Jim and Victor,
This has been fun. A look into the other dimension. Sure looks like all of you are enjoying what ever it is that you are doing. Maybe we got a few others to take a peek into your realm.
Oh, and by the way, I understood the meaning of the Quote.
Man can't wait untill tomorrow, I'll get those Hillbillies down in the bluegrass section all in a tither.
Wait a second, that's Me or is it I.
B.Pat
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