Banjo frets vs. narrow frets

[mando bandage]

I'm interested in opinions from those in the know on playability and durability/maintenance of wider banjo frets vs. traditional, narrower mandolin frets.

Comments anyone?

R

[sunburst]

It all comes down to personal preference.
There have been many long threads on this subject, but they might be hard to find using the search button. There are those who say narrow is more playable and those who say wide is more playable, some say wide frets have an edge in durability and some say not.

[mando bandage]

John,

Thanks for the tip. I sharpened by search skills and found the threads you referenced. Bottom line seems to be "boxers or briefs".

R

[Paul Hostetter]

If you're wondering what's out there, check this (http://www.lutherie.net/fret.chart.html). For many people, banjo frets are narrow frets. I think those terms are misleading.

[mando bandage]

Thanks, Paul.

Very helpful and exhaustive resource.

R

[Paul Hostetter]

It was rather exhausting putting it together. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

There are some other European wires I didn't include, but this covers a lot of it. Many if not most of my serious mandolin clients prefer bigger frets, for ease of playing and durability. But I do the tiny ones for bowlbacks and various vintage items where it is appropriate.

[Crowder]

Skinny frets are GREAT for playing way up the neck. That would be the number one advantage. Otherwise I prefer a little more fret.

Some people think skinny frets contribute to certain tonal aspects. I can't hear it. However they may make certain styles of playing easier or harder.

Loars have skinny frets. If they didn't, I think a lot fewer people would profess to prefer skinny frets.

[Sleepy Moon Music]

I just built an f style and used banjo frets .I love the feel of them ,but i'm a guitar and banjo player also so maybe they just feel more like what i'm use to .

[Paul Hostetter]

What do you consider to be banjo frets?

[buddyellis]

I've found the FWG74 from LMI (EVO) to be quite nice. I think thats a pretty typical 'guitar' fretwire. I wish it were a TAD smaller (several of us should go together and order the minimum from jescar in a custom size, something like a .68-.72 CW, .43CH http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ) I think most people consider 'banjo' frets to be something between the loar fretwire and guitar wire. I'm not sure I've ever seen such a beast, or at least he is pretty rare.

[Sleepy Moon Music]

correct me if i am wrong but i always considered standard Mandolin wire to be .053 wide with a .037 crown [Stew/Mac standard mando wire ] I used the .080wide with .040 crown on this one .On my previous mandos i used the smaller size but built this one for myself .Maybe we should just consider standard as what we like not what others say !http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[markishandsome]

I always thought "banjo frets" referred to the skinniest frets available and were synonymous with Loar-spec mando frets. But I don't play banjo.

[TomTyrrell]

No matter the name, my favorite mandolin frets are the .080 x .040. Wide but not too wide. If you have lots of time they look really good if you narrow them out a bit on the frets above 15. A nice progressive (regressive?) width can really look good.

[Sleepy Moon Music]

That sounds good Tom .Do you just file them down? Or could you use the narrower fret wire ; or is it narrow enough ? I'm ready to experiment on ther next one ,I bent the sides up today .

[TomTyrrell]

The last one I did (I wish I'd taken a photo) I filed the fret wire a bit narrower before installation. I just eyeballed it and ended up with the graduated widths. The frets were all the same height.

I've been thinking about trying a stairstep fret height system sometime.