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MandoCowboy
Feb-06-2008, 10:29am
I wanted to post my impressions of the Ellis F-5 mandolin that is currently advertised in the classifieds. First off, Dan who owns the instrument is a first class citizen and it was obvious to me how much he liked this mandolin. Dan spent an hour with me and another mando picker friend who I brought along to do a tasting. Dan's knowledge of this instrument, and of other fine mandolin is extensive. I was a pleasure to discuss mandolins in general with him and informative of Ellis mandolins in particular.

I had never laid eyes on an Ellis mandolin, nor had heard one up close and personal. I've read glowing reports, but there's nothing like seeing and playing the real thing to drive home the intent of words. This mandolin is stunning in looks, fit and finish. Perfection is not a thorough enough word to describe it.

Sometimes when something like that looks so good, when it's picked up held and played it feels a little uncomfortable and awkward. Not this mandolin. I felt like I'd known this mandolin all my life, which is very unusual for me to experience when playing another mando other than my main axe. One of the nice touches was the neck. It had a satin finish treatment to the neck which allowed a "speed neck" feel without the look of seeing the finish removed. Even though I felt it, I did not really even notice it until Dan pointing it out. That was really nice.

Dan's style of music allows for a very low action on the mandolin. I play Blugrass, but I'm not a heavy handed player, thus the low action did not cause me any major problems. Even with such a setup this mandolin was booming and projected wonderfully. The tone was something I'd never quite heard before. As I was playing the mando, it was not hard at all to get great tone, expressive and clear, with absolutely no muddle when combining notes with double stop, or running together of notes with tremelo or faster speed bluegrass runs. That was very pleasing, but that tone that I was hearing still caused me to cock my ear closer to try and figure out what is was I was taking in.

Dan described it to me as the Ellis tone. This particular mandolin has a "sad and happy tone within one note" as he put it so well. There's plenty of Bluegrass mid-range, and plently of soulful bluesy stuff, and you can calm things down into expressive quiet to emotional impact on tremelo. It was hard for me to put the thing down. The hour went to quickly.

Now I have a serious case of MAS bearing down upon my shoulders and pocket book. It is a dangerous thing sampling high end mandolins like this one. As I weigh the options of financial ruin, family disturbance, and sort out if I've reached the optimum position of being mando-poor as I count the ones already in my possession, that Ellis tone is still cutting through. Please, someone buy this thing and relieve me of my delimma.

Dan...Thanks for the wonderful hospitality. The cookies were great!!!!

Mando Cowboy

Chris Biorkman
Feb-06-2008, 10:42am
Just do it. You can always deal with the fallout later. ;)

I love mine as well.

Glassweb
Feb-06-2008, 10:43am
Hey Cowboy, why don't YOU buy it and relieve yourself of this acute case of MAS! Seriously though, really enjoyed your review. I have never played an Ellis myself, but have heard all sorts of reports about his mandolins... all of them good. If a picture does indeed tell 1,000 words, it's pretty apparent that Mr. Ellis' level of craftsmanship is exceedingly high. Compared to several of the top builders his mandolins seem to be well-priced. Considering Gils, Dudes, Nuggs and Monts retail anywhere from $20K-$30K (with exceptions), the mandolins that are offered by builders like Ellis and Kimble are relative bargains. No kidding! Hell, even a DMM is around $20K. Once again, choices choices and more choices make this a GREAT time to be a mandolinist.

Ken Sager
Feb-06-2008, 11:25am
They are THAT good, and the OP has described the "Ellis" vibe very well. They're exceptional instruments that easily feel like the one in your hands belongs there, has always been there, and you can do anything with it.

I got the chance to meet Tom Ellis in Nashville in October and I'm still regretting not offering him cash on the spot for the mandolin he let me play. It was already spoken for otherwise I would have said we were meant for each other (the mandolin, not Tom).

They're absolutely outstanding instruments and worth the money.

IMHO,
Ken

Bradley
Feb-06-2008, 11:46am
Oh I love the Ellis Threads....

I recently recieved Ellis #101 from a fellow Cafe Member and must say that it I am VERY pleased with it. As was said earlier the workmanship is awesome as well as the sound. I took it to SPGMA with me this weekend and it was definitely a hit.

Go ahead and buy it....come on....

sgarrity
Feb-06-2008, 11:48am
Great review. I've never played one either but would definitely like to. although I'm worried about the MAS it will cause. Now if he'd just make an A5......

Rick Schmidlin
Feb-06-2008, 11:53am
Great review,buy it you will then maybe will have a lifetime companion.

Glassweb
Feb-06-2008, 11:54am
#Now if he'd just make an A5......
Calling Mr. Ellis... calling Mr. Ellis...

surfandstrum
Feb-06-2008, 12:27pm
I love the Ellis posts too...Because I love the mandolins he makes...The review describes it perfectly and I am always amazed at the fit and finish detail that Tom and the crew put into each mandolin...I know everything is subjective, but Tom's mandolins IMHO are in the same league as the big makers of the day, but at a fraction of the cost...Get it if you can!!!

bcoryh
Feb-07-2008, 12:21am
Someone once asked me to describe my Ellis #103. #Here is what I wrote:

It has beautiful, crystalline highs, and a mid-range that seems to come directly from God's hands. #It's just gorgeous. #Every note is like a little droplet of beauty that projects from the instrument and floats down on little parachutes. #It has great separation and you can actually hear chords as a combination of individual notes. #(With some mandolins, the chords can seem cloudy and murky, if that makes sense.) #The bottom end is also clean and articulate, but I would not describe it as loud, boomy, or Gibson-like. #If you want a mandolin that really thumps your chest, this isn't it. #However, the tone is beautifully balanced and very complex -- the most tonally complex mandolin I have ever played. #

Speaking of playing, Tom's mandolins are incredibly easy to play. #It's hard to describe, but they just fit perfectly in my hands, and they fret like a dream.

Of course, the fit and finish is immaculate. #I am a real sucker for beautiful, well-made, instruments, and they don't come any nicer than this.

"Ellis: #A Cure for the Common MAS...."

Cory H.
Houston

surfandstrum
Feb-07-2008, 1:44am
Well put...very impressed (not sarcastic)...

I was tempted to say they are a cure for MAS, but I feel I will always have MAS...However, it's a cure for the high $$ MAS for me at least...

Chris Biorkman
Feb-07-2008, 9:07pm
Well put...very impressed (not sarcastic)...

I was tempted to say they are a cure for MAS, but I feel I will always have MAS...However, it's a cure for the high $$ MAS for me at least...
Do you have an Ellis?

Bradley
Feb-07-2008, 9:19pm
I will go on the record and say that my MAS is cured.

Corys description is very good..except I am waiting for them little parachutes to show up.

surfandstrum
Feb-10-2008, 10:14am
Do we know if anyone else picked up any of those Ellis' in the classified?...I also think Gruhn got a new one that I saw in their inventory...

surfandstrum
Feb-13-2008, 12:38am
Biorkman...Tom, mentioned you asked if I had an Ellis in a early post (sorry for not seeing it)...Yes, I do...#109 and love it...

pjlama
Feb-13-2008, 1:28am
I like the Ellis threads too, of course owning one is a real pleasure and source of pride. Mine was stelar from the beginning but around the holidays it hit a new level of responsiveness. The only negative is that I already need to have the frets dressed after only eight months. #Cory, I'm not sure if yours has opened yet but mine is very loud while not losing all the nuance. Cowboy you ought to think about picking that one up it seems to have grabbed you. Anyway here's a gratuitous pic that's already been up but it's still good mando porn, #100.

dmamlep
Feb-13-2008, 10:14am
I may be wrong but I think I saw Ricky Skaggs playing one, cant remember,but It was a vidio, maybe on youtube.

AlanN
Feb-13-2008, 11:26am
hmmm, I remember a Frets magazine way back with Ricky pictured playing an Ellis F-5. For the last many years, he be a Gibson boy.

surfandstrum
Feb-13-2008, 12:14pm
Laurel...I did hear one of my friends saying that they saw a recent video of him playing and Ellis too...I've been looking and haven't had any luck finding it...But I do know he was an Ellis player, before he moved to Gibson...

Ctone
Feb-13-2008, 12:33pm
I have a Doc Watson video that is acompilation of diferent performances. A couple songs feature Scaggs in a duo setting, and he is playing an Ellis.It sounds great(of course.) http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif