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anyone ever hear of a mando player with
the name of "CLIFF LAMB" that played
with jimmy martin?
ricardo
Jan-12-2008, 6:38pm
No, can't say as I'VE HEARD OF that one. But...."....life with the King of Bluegrass is not for the lilly-livered or 'faint-of-heart"..( Marty Stuart's words in the introduction to the recent book "THE KING OF BLUEGRASS". Moose. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif
f5loar
Jan-14-2008, 6:05pm
There were hundreds of ex Sunny Mtn. Boys that only lasted a week, some less. Sounds like he might be one of those if he didn't make Jimmy's top 100 Sunny Mtn. Boys list I saw in BU several years ago.
ricardo
Jan-15-2008, 10:13am
f5loar: hee...hee.. REMEMBER WHEN HE 'FIRED' RAY(HIS SON) FOR "..NOT PLAYN' IT THE WAY I TAUGHT YA'!?? - "When the tailgate drops, the B/S### stops"... R.I.P. Mr. Martin...thanks for the wonderful music and memories. Moose. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
300win
Jan-15-2008, 10:27am
Ronnier Prevette was his mandolin player for many years.
f5loar
Jan-15-2008, 1:16pm
I'd say his main mando guys were Paul Williams,Earl Taylor,
Vernon Derrick, Herschel Sizemore,Doyle Lawson and Ronnie Prevette. Anybody else was just passing through.
ricardo
Jan-15-2008, 6:14pm
YUP!! - and if Jimmy is liste'n(!?)... HE...would agree - AN D probably give(offer!##) you a few "lengthly" comments about THAT....and THEM!!! hee...hee...MOOSE. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif
One of my favorites is the comment by a Sunny Mountain banjo player, who looked upon that experience as his "personal VietNam."
poymando
Jan-16-2008, 9:11am
Did Audie Blaylock have the mandolin job for the longest stretch with Jimmy? I seem to recall he stuck it out longer than any of the other Sunny Mtn Boys.
ManjoMan
Jan-16-2008, 1:34pm
Did Audie Blaylock have the mandolin job for the longest stretch with Jimmy? I seem to recall he stuck it out longer than any of the other Sunny Mtn Boys.
That's kind of what I remember
Salty Dog
Jan-16-2008, 11:06pm
Jimmy Martin has my highest respect for his music (I own his Bear Family Collection), but I saw him once live in the early 70's at Gettysburg. #He was so abusive to his banjo player that day that I walked away from the performance and swore that I would never attend a live concert of his again - a promise that I kept. #What he did to that banjo player that day defies description (and it was before an audience!) and I could not believe the banjo player didn't just walk off the stage. #Jimmy's music was of the highest caliber but his mouth and behaviour kept him from achieving a higher place in bluegrass history. #That's my humble opinion.
swampstomper
Jan-17-2008, 2:45am
Can someone who has the box set please tell me who is the mando player on the classic Train 45? It sounds to me like Vernon Derrick.
flatthead
Jan-17-2008, 5:35am
Audie played mandolin approximately nine years with Jimmy, from 1982 to 1991. #Paul Williams played on the original cut of Train 45 along with Paul Craft playing banjo. #Paul Craft went on to be a very sucessful songwriter in Nashville.
There were a lot of Sunny Mountain Boys, so I'm sure Cliff could have been one of em...
Fretbear
Jan-17-2008, 5:51am
He was even recorded mildly abusing the banjo player John McKuen on "Will The Circle Be Unbroken"....
ricardo
Jan-18-2008, 9:05am
welll...., ya' know EVERYBODY can't be a J.D. CROW!!### Once ya' fly with eagles...., it's tough to work with "sparrows".... hee.. hee... RIP Mr. Martin. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif
Bernie Daniel
Jan-18-2008, 2:01pm
saltydog: #but I saw him once live in the early 70's at Gettysburg. #He was so abusive to his banjo player that day that I walked away from the performance and swore that I would never attend a live concert of his again - a promise that I kept.
I strongly agree with this statement. I saw the same thing a couple of times and I thought it was horrible -- I was really embarressed for the musician getting insulted in front of the crowd. #A few were dumb enough to laugh but most were like me -- shocked. #
There is no danger that I would have ever been in his band -- I'm not even remotely good enough. #
But if someone had treated me that way in public -- in my younger days -- I would have decked them (or tried to) no doubt.
Having musical talent does not entitle one to be a complete jerk.
It is probably just that he was never inducted into the Oprey -- talent the only issue, he sure deserved it. #
But his behavior was over the line --- that is just my opinion.
Another side of me found the man endearing and loveable. I would have like to have met him.
Willie
Jan-18-2008, 8:30pm
I have a friend that is very accomplished banjo picker and Jimmy offered him a job about 20 years ago and he told Jimmy not on your life, I have seen the way you treat banjo pickers....I HAVE met Jimmy and have talked to him several times over the years and he is without a doubt the most conceited man I have ever met, yes, more so than Skaggs...I told him once that I he was going to break his arm patting himself on the back all of the time...He claims he was the one that talked Monroe into playing this style of music that we call bluegrass....I agree, his music was/is as good as any bluegrass out there but as a person left a lot to be desired, I still play a lot of his songs and will keep doing so...Willie
Fretbear
Jan-19-2008, 4:57am
WSM's tee-totaling likely helped take edge off his larger than life persona and interpersonal relationships; Jimmy didn't have that particular advantage....Bill often credited his long career and specifically his long-time membership on the Opry to his sobriety.
Donald James
Jan-19-2008, 5:03am
Flathead, weren't you a Sunny Mountain Boy?
DJ
flatthead
Jan-19-2008, 8:01am
Yes, I played banjo for Jimmy Martin for two short stints. We were good friends for about 20 years and he taught me a lot about music. I'm not saying he was a saint nor am I defending him, but at least I'm my experiences over that 20 or so years, I considered him a good friend, and great musician, and I miss him.
Best Regards to all
Jim
sunburst
Jan-19-2008, 11:31am
Two ex-Sunny Mt. boy banjo players that I know (Flatthead right up there^, and Bill Emerson) have fond memories and intertaining stories about their days with Jimmy Martin. While Jimmy could be a real jerk when the mood struck him, he wasn't all bad. As Eddie Stubbs said, he was often his own worst enemy.
(Sorry I missed you in Knoxville, Jimmy. Wish I could have made it.)