View Full Version : Metal and hard rock mandolin?
Angelgiest
Oct-01-2007, 1:38pm
anybody play hard rock or metal mandolin? i know i like to play marilyn manson, tom petty, black sabbath and some nine inch nails on my mandolin. anyone else?
Jason Kessler
Oct-02-2007, 11:30am
I played mandolin in a band that played Ramones, Faces, Petty, etc. Worked great. The mando is one pliable instrument.
taboot
Oct-02-2007, 1:59pm
Check out the Alex Gregory stuff for download on the cafe's site, or buy the disc from emando's site (NFI). That's metal/hard rock mandolin, for sure.
Christian
Keith Erickson
Oct-09-2007, 1:16pm
I like to noodle around with Rush tunes since they are my favorite band http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
...but if you want to talk about fun, try playing Iron Maiden!!!
I've figured out "The number of the Beast" and "Somewhere in Time".
Last year I learned "Powerslave" and I've started noodling around with "Rime of the Ancient Mariner".
Angelgiest
Oct-18-2007, 6:17pm
I heard that metal mandolin. loved it! i have a TON of hard rock for mandolin tabs, but ultimate guitar turned them down, so i'm going to start putting them here.
Undercover Brother
Oct-18-2007, 6:49pm
I would love to see whatever tabs you could share...
Thank you for whatever you are able to pass along!
Chris
mandolirius
Oct-18-2007, 7:04pm
i've sat in with several rock bands, but usually with a solid-body electric mando. i use effects and try to get a sound like carlos santana.
Bret Roberts
Oct-19-2007, 4:31am
Angelgiest,
I also would love to see some of this. If not here, then
It would be great if you could put some up at Mandozine
with TablEdit.
Thanks again for this offer.
Tebbie bear
Oct-19-2007, 4:36am
Please don't use tablEdit their are many Mac users here that can't use that program.
I use an Ovation MM68 in a Rock/Blues cover band. When I need the accoustic sound, I run it clean. When I need a grungier or creative sound, I use the variety of sounds on my peddle. I've never seen the reason to use a solid body. I prefer the feel of an accoustic instrument when I play. For me, this is the best of both worlds as our bands set list includes songs that requires a variety of sounds.
Now, I don't tend to bend strings a ton, use slide or tap like Eddie VH. I suppose a solid body would be better for that type of playing.
Mando's in a rock n roll environment are great. They keep our sound and look unique over what most bar owners and patrons normally see. I know some people remember us JUST becouse we have an instrument that they aren't familiar with. It still sorta cracks me up when I'm playing the lead to Crazy Train. I have it blaring a Randy Rhodes guitar sound - but using my little mando. -)
Walter Newton
Oct-25-2007, 11:44am
Please don't use tablEdit their are many Mac users here that can't use that program.
Why not? I have Tabledit for Mac, works fine.
Angelgiest
Oct-31-2007, 10:01pm
i am getting ready to add a tab. dancing with myself [verse riff] by billy idol. it's really basic, but i have better. i have some tabs i am working on that even notate the length of notes like that stairway to heaven tab on here. so anyone else really interested in getting more hard rock, metal, and punk mando tabs online?
NumbersAndNoise
Nov-19-2007, 1:47pm
I use an Ovation MM68 in a Rock/Blues cover band. When I need the accoustic sound, I run it clean. When I need a grungier or creative sound, I use the variety of sounds on my peddle. I've never seen the reason to use a solid body. I prefer the feel of an accoustic instrument when I play. For me, this is the best of both worlds as our bands set list includes songs that requires a variety of sounds.
Now, I don't tend to bend strings a ton, use slide or tap like Eddie VH. I suppose a solid body would be better for that type of playing.
Mando's in a rock n roll environment are great. They keep our sound and look unique over what most bar owners and patrons normally see. I know some people remember us JUST becouse we have an instrument that they aren't familiar with. It still sorta cracks me up when I'm playing the lead to Crazy Train. I have it blaring a Randy Rhodes guitar sound - but using my little mando. -)
Can you tab out Crazy Train? I've got the intro down, and a decent idea of the chorus, but that's about it.
CollingsPicker
Nov-28-2007, 9:48am
Anybody got some hard rock or heavy metal or any kind of rock sounding mando licks
please help me somebody
David
mando-picker@hotmail.com
Bernie Daniel
Dec-07-2007, 4:58am
Please don't use tablEdit their are many Mac users here that can't use that program.
When are you apple guys going to get a real computer? #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I love tablEdit!
jmcgann
Dec-07-2007, 5:02pm
When are you apple guys going to get a real computer? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I love tablEdit
Real computer users don't need tab! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Dave Caulkins
Dec-07-2007, 8:35pm
I convert a bit of guitar tab... In topic, I've worked on a few Iron Maiden and Danzig pieces. My major concentration has been adapting Stray Cats era Setzer... It doesn't adapt easily.
I change guitar tab to standard notation so I can read on both instruments. So, indirectly, I agree with John. And I use a Mac http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Dave
Joel Spaulding
Dec-07-2007, 9:49pm
Maiden - "The Trooper", "Flight of Icarus"; Queensryche, Zep, Rush, Tool - All mostly noodled on a $200 import A-style. I have ordered my first real F-style acoustic, so it will likely be another year before an electric mando joins the family - Metal Mando Music may then be pursued in earnest. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
No tab - just ear, memory ( what remains from the 80's) and (sometimes)a lot of wrong notes! The process of creating mando parts for this genre doesn't always work out, but it is always interesting.
NumbersAndNoise
Dec-09-2007, 3:40am
Maiden - "The Trooper", "Flight of Icarus"; Queensryche, Zep, Rush, Tool - All mostly noodled on a $200 import A-style. I have ordered my first real F-style acoustic, so it will likely be another year before an electric mando joins the family - Metal Mando Music may then be pursued in earnest. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
No tab - just ear, memory ( what remains from the 80's) and (sometimes)a lot of wrong notes! The process of creating mando parts for this genre doesn't always work out, but it is always interesting.
Wow. I can't imagine playing "The Trooper" on mandolin. The sustain necessary to play the little trill in the main riff simply doesn't exist on mandolin, in my experience. Are you picking each note?
Joel Spaulding
Dec-09-2007, 4:18am
Perhaps I should clarify - I hope I didn't imply I played it WELL http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Back in the 80's "The Trooper" was one of those songs on which I wore out my ears. I played the bass parts on a Keyboard before our "band" found a bass player (Good rock bass players were incredibly rare in mid-80s #small-town Vermont) - so I know the form of the song fairly well. I hadn't heard the song in at least ten years, then sometime last year I downloaded some 80's nostalgia music and started jamming to it. I don't have all the notes - but I try not to play the wrong ones. Some parts (trills, esp.) are ghosted over with a few cue melody notes - not exactly, but almost - completely unlike Bill Monroe http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif
My part may start with a melody then change to rhythm when I am over my head. An electric mandolin will certainly help capture the vibe of the song more completely than my "beater" A. I am a firm believer that any music can be adapted to Mandolin ( I believe Mandocrucian supports a similar view) even though some music probably should not!
John L
Dec-09-2007, 5:18am
Not sure if this needs a new thread ... I would like to hear what everyone uses when they "go electric." Not just the mandolin they use, but also any effects. I have a multi-effect unit for guitar, but have never plugged in my mandolin to it.
NumbersAndNoise
Dec-09-2007, 1:52pm
Hmm... Also on the subject, I just figured out "Killing in the Name" by Rage Against The Machine. The tremolo-picked solo lends itself very well to Mandolin. I can type up tabs if anyone wants, though that would be a thing for another thread.
Undercover Brother
Dec-10-2007, 11:44am
If you have time... I'd be ever-so-grateful to check out the tabs for "Killing In The Name". Sorry I don't have anything to offer back. (Besides my eternal thanks and the knowledge that you'd make me look like a hero to my 9 year old. He can't stand Bill Monroe yet.)
Chris
NumbersAndNoise
Dec-12-2007, 2:37am
<span style='font-family:Courier'>Killing In The Name
by Rage Against The Machine
Key:
h = hammer-on (optional)
/ = slide
t = tremolo
The timing is very much approximated, since two-digit fret-numbers and other such notation make complete accuracy difficult.
INTRO
E---
A-0-
D-0- Held for a whole measure, repeat 4 times
G---
REST, 4 measures
E---------------- -------------------
A-0-0-0------9h10 -0-0-0------9/12/9-
D-0-0-0-11h12---- x3 -0-0-0-11h12-------
G---------------- -------------------
Rest for vocals to enter
VERSE
E------1-2-----------
A---3-5----5-0-2-3-2-
D-0----------0-2-3-2-
G--------------------
PRECHORUS 1 2
E-------11--------10-------9- --------- ---------
A---3-5-------3-5------3-5--- -0-2-3-2- -3ttttttt
D-0---------0--------0------- -0-2-3-2- ---------
G---------------------------- --------- ---------
CHORUS
E---------
A-0-0---0-
D-0-0---0- x4, then x4 with scratching/ghost notes
G---------
E-----------------------
A-0-0--0-0--0-0-0-------
D-0-0--0-0--0-0-0-0-2-5- x4
G-----------------0-2-5-
SOLO
E-------------------------------
A-7ttt4ttt0ttt--------4tttttttt-
D-------------------------------
G-------------7ttt5ttt----------
E---------------------------------------------------
A-7ttt4ttt2ttt0ttt----------------------------------
D------------------------------12ttt12ttt10ttt10ttt-
G-----------------2ttt7ttt5ttt----------------------
E---------------------------
A-9ttttttt11ttttttt1ttttttt-
D---------------------------
G---------------------------
POST-SOLO
E------------------------------------------------------------------
A-5ttttttt7ttttttt8ttttttt10tttttt12tttttt13tttttt15 tttttt17tttttt-
D------------------------------------------------------------------
G------------------------------------------------------------------
OUTRO
E---------------6-6-6-
A-5tttttt-0-0-0-6-6-6-
D---------0-0-0-------
G---------------------</span>
Keith Erickson
Dec-12-2007, 8:21am
This thread is now got me itchin' to learn "Sweating Bullets" from Megadeth http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif
Snakebeard Jackson
Dec-12-2007, 8:42am
I like Hells Bells! AC/DC
also crazy train is a fun one.
surfandstrum
Dec-12-2007, 9:23am
Please post the metal tabs very interested...
TeleMark
Dec-12-2007, 10:38am
I like Hells Bells! AC/DC
also crazy train is a fun one.
Crazy Train is a blast. Yonder Mountain covers this from time to time.
NumbersAndNoise
Dec-18-2007, 2:14am
I've been working on Welcome Home by Coheed and Cambria for mandolin to play in duet, which works surprisingly well, but I've been wondering, is there a good substitute for a pinched harmonic to use on acoustic mandolin? I'd been using quick hammer-ons, slides up, or tremolo-ed notes in place of them, but it sounds kinda odd, especially in the pre-chorus.
Angelgiest
Dec-27-2007, 12:49am
just try a pinch on mando, but i will say it's easier on guitar.
Angelgiest
Dec-27-2007, 12:50am
thanks for the idea, i've been playing a lot of coheed lately on guitar, slipped my mind to play it on mando.
jferg9
Dec-27-2007, 1:24am
A bit of a different focus to this thread but I wanted to give a little mando credit where credit due.........I have long been a fan of Seals & Crofts.....the pop/rock duo of the 70s and I would say that Dash Crofts does not get the credit he deserves for his mandolin talents. I saw S & C a # of times back then and he was fantastic on the mandolin.......not sure how many rock mando players there were back in those days but Dash inspired me to first pick up a mandolin as a teen.
He carried the pop/rock mandolin torch well back in those days. Go back and listen to his mandolin playing on windflowers, diamond girl, east of ginger trees, hummingbird, etc etc etc.....great music indeed.
Peace,
Jim
homeslice
Dec-27-2007, 4:06am
I've been working on Welcome Home by Coheed and Cambria for mandolin to play in duet, which works surprisingly well, but I've been wondering, is there a good substitute for a pinched harmonic to use on acoustic mandolin? I'd been using quick hammer-ons, slides up, or tremolo-ed notes in place of them, but it sounds kinda odd, especially in the pre-chorus.
"Split-stringing" may sound interesting in there....hard to do, for me, though.
NumbersAndNoise
Dec-30-2007, 5:41am
I've been working on Welcome Home by Coheed and Cambria for mandolin to play in duet, which works surprisingly well, but I've been wondering, is there a good substitute for a pinched harmonic to use on acoustic mandolin? I'd been using quick hammer-ons, slides up, or tremolo-ed notes in place of them, but it sounds kinda odd, especially in the pre-chorus.
"Split-stringing" may sound interesting in there....hard to do, for me, though.
Hmm... I played around with split-stringing a bit. Not quite the sound I'm looking for in this particular situation, (think I'll just go with tremolo-picking the fretted note) but it did give me a very good idea. It may be a little difficult to get into position for a split-string, but once you are, it can easily be used as a movable shape. Playing, say, x22/4x and moving that around yields some interesting and practical results. As for Welcome Home, when I get it down a little better, I may put up a video and/or tabs.