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imegu
May-28-2007, 10:15am
Do you know if there is a string winder specifically for mandolins? I have a guitar winder and it doesn't fit well between the buttons. I change strings about once every 2 months and a good mando string winder would be nice. Thanks ya'll.

Keith Erickson
May-28-2007, 10:24am
Howdy George,

I've got a peg winder at home that I picked up at Elderly for a few bucks. It can accomodate both the tuning pegs are my guitars and mandolins.

I'm even using the same peg winder for changing the string on my mountain dulcimer also.

Changing mandolin strings without a peg winder is just as fun as picking tumble weed out of my backyard every weekend http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Jim MacDaniel
May-28-2007, 10:27am
Ever since I started restringing my mandolin based upon Frank Ford's advice in this excellent tutorial at Frets.com (link (http://frets.com/FRETSPages/Musician/Mandolin/MandoString/mandostring1.html)), I've found that I don't need to put that many turns on the tuners -- so I no longer have a need for a string-winder.

Daniel Nestlerode
May-28-2007, 10:41am
The answer is yes.
http://cumberlandacoustic.com/_wsn/page3.html

They're pricey for a little string winder, but spending the money now beats turning the tuners by hand or with anything else by a long shot.

Daniel

billhay4
May-28-2007, 10:45am
If you use this method for stringing Frets.com (http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Musician/Mandolin/MandoString/mandostring3.html) you shouldn't need a string winder at all. You only make a couple of turns of the tuner post.
Bill

John Flynn
May-28-2007, 11:03am
I use the Ford method also, but I still find a winder handy. My fave is the Dean Markley TurboTune. I like it for these reasons:

1. It has concentric slots, for basses, guitars and for smaller tuners. The latter fits all the main brands of mando tuners perfectly.

2. The outside of the winder socket is round, so it can never knock into an adjacent tuners like some winders can.

3. The socket removes from the crank and is set up to go right into a cordless screwdriver, in case you really want "turbo tuning." I use that and I like it.

4. They go for about 10 bucks. A real deal for what you get.

http://www.afm.org/public/musicbiz/guitarstring.php

MikeEdgerton
May-28-2007, 11:32am
I use an inexpensive winder called the "Jop". You start out with a standard buck and a half Jim Dunlop guitar winder, cut it two times, glue the smooth ends together with Superglue. Just for giggles I poured a little baking soda down inside and dropped some Superglue on it to add a little stiffness. Much cheaper than the wooden winders sold by just about everyone.

Daniel Nestlerode
May-28-2007, 11:49am
Brilliant!

Daniel

Michael Gowell
May-28-2007, 12:32pm
Just a word on behalf of elegance - Hans B. makes beautifully turned winders from time to time.

Ted Eschliman
May-28-2007, 3:12pm
My fave is the Dean Markley TurboTune.
Bad news. The Dean Markley (and Dunlop) TurboTune have been Plutoed.
They are no more. Planet Waves makes one that is small and fits the mandolin nicely.

Steve L
May-28-2007, 3:40pm
I've found that if you keep all the buttons of the tuners perpendicular to the face of the headstock that standard guitar peg winders work okay.

humblemex
May-28-2007, 5:49pm
I bought one made of maple by Lynn Dudenbostal a few years ago. It's the closest I'll ever get to owning a Dude.

Paul Hostetter
May-29-2007, 1:51pm
The amended Scotty has been my standard for nearly 40 years:

http://www.lutherie.net/stringwinders.jpg

I also have one I amended, using a drywall bit, for a power screwdriver:

http://www.lutherie.net/stringwinder.jpg

I never liked the Turbo things because they left marks on the buttons.

You don't really need to backwind wound strings, but backwinding plain strings is pretty important, unless you're real lucky.

http://www.lutherie.net/stringing.mandolin.jpg

John Flynn
May-29-2007, 2:10pm
Bad news. The Dean Markley (and Dunlop) TurboTune have been Plutoed.
Ted:
I know you are in the biz and you have access to info I don't, but just FYI, the Turbo Tune is still on the Dunlop website and I found two online retailers offering them for sale.
http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.p....ssories (http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=132&pmh=products/accessories)

Ted Eschliman
May-30-2007, 1:00pm
...the Turbo Tune is still on the Dunlop website and I found two online retailers offering them for sale.
Oh, really???
<a href="http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Accessories/Stringwinders/Turbo_Tune_Stringwinder.html" target="_blank">
StewMac: Turbo Tune Stringwinder" has been discontinued</a>
ZZounds: This product is no longer available at zZounds. (http://www.zzounds.com/item--DNP118)
This product has been discontinued or is no longer sold by SameDayMusic. (http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--DNP118)
Resonoise: This product is no longer available (http://resonoise.com/more/DNP118)
Sam Ash: Availability: On Order. Call for availability (http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemID=38104&ovchn=MSN&ovcpn=Sam+Ash+TL&ovcrn=38104&ovtac=CMP&AffiliateID=630) But don't hold your breath, either; I've been trying from my distributors for the last four months.

Jim Broyles
May-30-2007, 1:16pm
Same name,different brand. (http://www.suncreekmusic.com/product_info.php/cPath/45_52/products_id/759) Looks like it's made very similarly.

Ted Eschliman
May-30-2007, 2:16pm
Somebody, let me know if you have success ordering one; I'd be grateful. It's listed in almost all of my suppliers' catalogs, but showing it and having it are often two different things.

Paul Hostetter
May-30-2007, 2:47pm
It's interesting that Dunlop's U.S. Suggested List is $9.99, and Dean's list is $15.00 and on sale at $13.99. Such a deal. Sam Ash has them online for $6.99, but they've been backordered since February. I want a day-glow one, these are particularly useful for string basses, and they don't leave smudges like the black ones.

Pluto is an adverb?

http://www.lutherie.net/pluto.jpg

Ted Eschliman
May-30-2007, 6:53pm
Pluto is an adverb?
Pluto.
Plutoed (http://www.americandialect.org/index.php/amerdial/plutoed_voted_2006_word_of_the_year/)...

John Flynn
May-30-2007, 8:01pm
I thought it had to do with this guy:

JEStanek
May-30-2007, 8:07pm
How come Goofy (a dog) wears clothes, speaks, and is an individual but Pluto (a dog) gets only a collar, only barks, and is Mickey's pet?

Why, when Donald gets outta the shower he wraps a towel around his waist but all the other times he only wears a jacket and hat?

Jamie

trevor
May-31-2007, 8:02am
Some (e.g. Planet Waves, don't know if they are available in the US but I expect so) have slots at 90 degrees of different sizes, the smaller one is ideal for most mandolins.

bgjunkie
May-31-2007, 8:13am
I found these on Johnathan Mann's site:Hardwood Mandolin String Winders (http://www.manndolins.com/new_page_1.htm)

JEStanek
May-31-2007, 9:09am
I got the Planet Waves one from Mandohack. It fits the buttons well. Sadly no drill bit attachment for tuner cleaning ala Paul Hostetter's Tri-Flo method. Handy cranking makes me cranky.

Jamie

Peter Hackman
May-31-2007, 10:39am
this works for both guitar and mandolin

trevor
May-31-2007, 2:32pm
That's similar to the Planet Waves, which also has a snipper, if folks are interested I will post a photo tomorrow.

gregjones
Jun-01-2007, 6:33am
Why, when Donald gets outta the shower he wraps a towel around his waist but all the other times he only wears a jacket and hat?
Well, here goes another sleepless night tying to figure that one out.

dr.jazz
Jun-07-2007, 7:36pm
Turbo Tune works great. AND it fits an electric screw driver AND it works on guitars, AND it even works on my String Bass!!!

Dan Cole
Jun-08-2007, 9:32am
I bought one from someone here on the cafe that was shaped like a mando peg head. Sorry I can't remember the name. But it should be able to be found in a search, if you can figure out how to do that. I can never get it to work right for me!

Dan Cole
Jun-08-2007, 9:33am
Ok I found it. Its called the mando crank.

http://www.bluegrasspilots.com/

No financial interest, but it worked great!

arbarnhart
Jun-08-2007, 10:38am
I hesitated about posting this because one of my prime motivations is to keep myself from being a packrat, but it also does speed changes...

I have started snipping at the loop when I change strings. I hold the string by the bridge so it doesn't recoil and scar anything (or anyone). Then I just pull straight up over the post and the string unwinds and pulls free. Putting on the new strings, I follow the Ford instructions others linked to and don't do a lot of excessive winding. I used to be bad about saving my old strings "just in case" but this method has cured me of that...

JeffD
Jun-09-2007, 11:43am
How come Goofy (a dog) wears clothes, speaks, and is an individual but Pluto (a dog) gets only a collar, only barks, and is Mickey's pet?

Why, when Donald gets outta the shower he wraps a towel around his waist but all the other times he only wears a jacket and hat?

Jamie
The questions of our time.

I am still stuck on why you drive on the parkway and park on the driveway. Or howcome when you send something over land its called shipping, but when you put it on a boat its called cargo.

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