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kww
Dec-06-2006, 9:34am
I am just doing some preliminary investigation about scheduling a mandolin workshop down here on my island of Bonaire. I would be trying to do it primarily as a charity event for the music school (Skol di Musika) and the woodworking classes in the local high-school. Our music school suffers from the same problem as most ... lack of funding, leading to lack of instruments for the students. Our average annual salary on the island is about $10,000, so most of the students are unable to afford their own.

Carpentry and woodworking are popular vocations on the island, because the market here is too small for quality mass-produced furniture. Most of the nicer homes have the shelving, cabinetry, finish trim, etc., all built from scratch from lumber brought up from Venezuela and Brazil. This makes woodworking a reasonably popular class at the high-school level. If I could get a kid interested in luthiery as a career, one could probably support himself doing instrument repair for our island and Curacao. I'm sure that most of the students would find instrument building to be an interesting variation on the usual cabinetry.

Mandolin is a reasonably popular instrument. It features prominently in Dominican music, and shows up in a lot of the Latin stuff.

All of which leads me to the basic idea: a mandolin workshop for about 10 students, building a mix of mandolins and octave mandolins. The ten students would be a mix of woodworking students that have reasonably developed woodworking skills and music students that would be having this as their first major woodworking project. The instruments would become the property of the music school, and the island gets kids with a new skill.

So now, the question: if I were to provide you with plane tickets and a week's lodging at my hotel, how much more money would you require to bring 10 kits and teach 10 kids how to build them? Feel free to respond by PM. I would provide workshop space via the school, and could get all of the finishing supplies, glues, small hardware, etc. donated by our local hardware chain. I am thinking May 2007 timeframe, but that could be moved.

billhay4
Dec-06-2006, 10:05am
What language would the lessons be conducted in?
Bill

kyblue
Dec-06-2006, 11:02am
Great idea. #Wish I had luthier skills!

Paula #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif

kww
Dec-06-2006, 11:11am
English, Spanish, Dutch, or Papiamentu would all work for languages. In general, most of the kids understand all four, but English is their fourth language: taught at school, and used at school, but not used in their day to day lives until they get into the workplace.

There would be locals to help translate when necessary, but it wouldn't be necessary often.

Interesting Papiamentu trivia: in Papiamentu, "banjo" means "toilet."

SternART
Dec-06-2006, 11:15am
HaHaHaHa.....pretty funny translation!

testore
Dec-06-2006, 11:17am
It does have a pot!

sunburst
Dec-06-2006, 12:03pm
Great idea. Wish I had luthier skills!
Wish I had teaching skills...

martinedwards
Dec-06-2006, 12:58pm
wish I was closer!!!!!

I AM a highschool teacher and I'm finishing off my 6th scratch built mando(with 5 guitars under my belt too) but i reckon I'm just too far away!!!http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

kww
Dec-06-2006, 2:09pm
Martin: Travel time, you are closer than Virginia or California (the two places that have given me serious responses so far). Aer Lingus from Dublin to Amsterdam, and then here. About 750 euro round trip, which is a bit higher cost, though. The other two respondents have taught groups of instrument builders in workshops before, so I would probably choose them, but there is a lot that can go wrong between asking someone if he's interested and actually getting them to show up with a pile of kits. PM me if you have serious interest.

Mario Proulx
Dec-06-2006, 2:19pm
Wish I weren't so afraid of flying..., but I can get over it every once in awhile.

Flat top or carved mandolins?

kww
Dec-06-2006, 2:40pm
M. Proulx
Flat top or carved mandolins?

Not particularly important. I see A-styles and flat-tops, no F's.

Jim MacDaniel
Dec-06-2006, 4:37pm
You might want to reach out to Rick Turner of Renaissance Guitars (MC ID: Rick Turner; web site: www.renaissanceguitars.com (http://www.renaissanceguitars.com)) and Don Kawalek (MC ID: luthier; web site: www.donkawalek.com (http://www.donkawalek.com)), as they both teach classes using kits or some degree of prebuilt parts.

Rick Turner
Dec-06-2006, 5:02pm
Thanks, Jim. I've been in touch with Kevin, and if I can get Cat on board with this and make the timing work it looks like a lot of fun.

martinedwards
Dec-08-2006, 7:31am
yup, go Rick!

He the MAAAANNN!!!

BTW Rick I've finally succomed to your advice and rigged a hot pipe to bend more difficult wood.

(I'm still gonna use the walpaper steamer for rosewood bindings though!!!http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif )

boatman
Dec-08-2006, 1:19pm
One element that kww hasn't mentioned that might have some relevance for those comptemplating his offer: Bonaire offers some of the finest diving in the world. Most dive spots require a boat ride to get to an offshore reef; at Bonaire one can swim off the beach(mask, snorkle and fins only if you want to keep it simple)proceed out a hundred yards or so, and voila! There is a "wall" (a vertical plunge into the abyss) that takes the breathe away. The fishing (wahoo, marlin & etc) is great as well; in fact one can linger at the top of the aforementioned "wall" and observe the beasts as they swim by without having to kill them. Bonaire is a neat place; somebody should jump on this offer! Regards

kww
Dec-08-2006, 3:38pm
Posts I make about life here have a tendency to be moderated out of existence. I'm trying to learn from experience.

Jack Roberts
Dec-08-2006, 3:47pm
Interesting Papiamentu trivia: in Papiamentu, "banjo" means "toilet."
You guys must be related to the Japanese. In Japanese "toilet: is "benjo",

kww
Dec-08-2006, 3:59pm
"Benjo" is just a bit on the formal side compared to the more normal "toire".

"Banjo" comes from the Portuguese and Spanish baņo, we just spell "y" with a "j".

When you write benjo more normally, no one gets the joke, unfortunately.

Jim MacDaniel
Dec-09-2006, 11:44am
Thanks, Jim. #I've been in touch with Kevin, and if I can get Cat on board with this and make the timing work it looks like a lot of fun.
Ooops -- now I see that you have already been participating in this thread! (Guess I was a little http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleepy.gif , and in need of http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/coffee.gif .)

John Bertotti
Dec-10-2006, 10:36am
Hey I am a bit short of cash at the moment but if this isn't till next year I'd be willing to pitch in 20 bucks for a worthy cause. I know you didn't ask but it just seems like a good thing to do.