View Full Version : Schaller vs. Grover
roberto
Aug-31-2006, 1:55am
Hola,
can someone tell me witch are better tuners between Schaller and Grover.?
Gracias amigos.
Roberto
french guy
Aug-31-2006, 3:19am
hola amigo,
In my opinion Grover seem more serious material .
I just compare the Shaller and Grover "Deluxe" .
I plan to make 2 instruments in the near future
I 've received 2 sets of Grover A style and they
seem better than Shaller I 've used on one mandolin
built few months ago.
roberto
Aug-31-2006, 3:33am
Mercy neighbour(i'm in Catalunya),
I'm thinking in installing the Gover tuners from my bad sounding mandolin to the good one that got Schaller.
Roberto
Stephen Perry
Aug-31-2006, 4:25am
Are Schaller & Grover the same dimensions? Post spacing, bushing diameter?
Bill Snyder
Aug-31-2006, 5:34am
Are Schaller & Grover the same dimensions? #Post spacing, bushing diameter?
Post spacing should be the same. I don't know about the bushings.
Jerry Byers
Aug-31-2006, 6:05am
Schallers would generally have the largest bushing diameter among all brands.
sunburst
Aug-31-2006, 8:03am
The sting posts are the same diameter and spacing, all the screws except one will line up with the existing holes, and you can just keep the bushings in place and swap the tuners.
I've had Waverly's before and switched to Grover... they were every bit as good from a player's standpoint. I prefer them also to Schaller.
acousticphd
Aug-31-2006, 10:01am
I also like Grovers over Schallers. StewMac has "blueprint"-type images, showing all the dimensions and measures for both brands of A-style tuners.
I think 2 screw positions are different between the two, as I have also done the swap with the A-style sets. On the Schallers, it's the top two screwholes that have the wider separation; on the Grovers it's the lowest two.
Darren Kern
Aug-31-2006, 11:14pm
I like the Schallers just fine, but the reason I probably won't use them in the future except if requested is that they don't have replaceable buttons like the other brands.
Christopher Standridge
Aug-31-2006, 11:57pm
Darren,
They don't have screws in the shaft, but that doesn't mean you can't replace them.I have replaced the last 4 or 5 Schaller buttons with the celluloid buttons that stew-mac sells.
Chris
Darren Kern
Sep-01-2006, 6:06am
Chris- good to know, thanks. I've heard others say they couldn't be replaced, and have never tried it. Schallers are a good economical option I think.
labraid
Sep-01-2006, 8:32am
For Schallers, dip the pearloid button ends in boiling hot water for 20 seconds to soften the glue then pull them off, or just break them off with cutting pliers. To replace, heat the tip of the button post with a torch on low, 5-7 seconds and slip on the new button, don't use glue or hydraulic pressure will prevent the operation, worse, splitting a wood button. Maybe glue works with plastic ones, never tried.
peter.coombe
Sep-01-2006, 4:41pm
Epoxy works with wooden buttons. No moisture so no splitting unless the fit is too tight. I recently got my first set of Waverlys, gold with Ebony buttons. Very very nice, extremely smooth, NO backlash and look gorgeous. I'm impressed. Pity about the price, particulalrly when converted to Aussie dollars (gasp). These were paid for by a customer.
I have used both Schaller and Grover and my humble opinion is that the Grovers are smoother and tune better so that is what I use. The Shallers I think look nicer and the buttons are replaceable.
I use the StewMac vintage tuner bushings for both.