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Guitar Jeremy
Apr-21-2006, 12:21pm
The last three weeks have been quite eventful for me. #I moved from Brooklyn to Manhattan, as I realized that I and my relationship could no longer handle living with my girlfriend in a small, one-bedroom apartment. #After nearly driving her crazy (I am already there), I found a great place on 87th St just off of Central Park West. #It has lots of light, and my two cats are with me. #I am happier.

Obviously, the process of moving and nearly breaking up took its toll. #In my weakened condition. I had a severe attack of GAS/MAS. #I recently sold a Paul Reed Smith and a Taylor, and the money from the sale was never meant to last. #Last Wednesday, I boarded the Ferry and headed to Mandolin Bros.

Sometime soon, I will get a Phoenix Neoclassical. #I almost bought one while I was there. #I think Stan was hoping I would buy one, because I'm not sure he wanted to sell me what I ended up on. #I played 6 Phoenix mandolins, including an Ultra, and they were all amazing. #However, I needed a mandolin that I can take to the Park at night or the Subway, and all the Phoenix mandos are just too beautiful and eminently mugging-worthy.

I played and again was impressed by a bunch of Collings, including a varnish model. #Although to me the varnish lacks the focus of laquer, it was fun to finally play one. #I played a superlative and lovely Bourgeois Country Boy Deluxe. #I got tempted and slightly off-track. #I played a 1925 Gibson mandola that was worth way more than the 6K that Stan was asking. #But my personal epiphany was really giving some time to the banjos. #Banjos are f-ing cool.

Stan yelled at someone else this time for playing too loud. #I smiled. #I had a burger at Duffy's and those delicious onion rings. #I was in gustatory ecstasy. #I told Stan that Mandolin Bros. is one of my favorite places in the world.# Here are some pics of my new lady:

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If you don't recognize the old mandolin, it's a Vega Style 203 from 1920. #Here's Stan's description from the Mandolin Bros. site:
48-4386 Vega Cylinder back mandolin #37809, bird’s eye maple sides and back, stained spruce top with bat-wing style tortoise shell celluloid pickguard, “Vega” in a star headstock inlay.
This fine sounding, easy-to-play mandolin comes in original worn hard shell case that has a chain for a handle (this fact references many folk songs). The instrument shows finish checking and normal signs of playing wear and use; the back shows an area of worn finish near the bottom, possibly from a buckle but in an area only the size of a postage stamp. There is a tiny split at the right-angle edge of its slide-on, small scalloped tailpiece cover, whose chrome is, like ourselves, a little worn. The ebony fretboard, inlaid with 4 large dots, has a scallop or wave figure at the bottom that projects into the crème bound oval soundhole. The bridge has been shimmed and there is touch- up on the top, adjacent to soundhole on the bass side and above and below the inlaid tortoise shell batwing pickguard, where the top was worn. The bar frets do show some wear and the tuners are replaced, but the newer Schallers are an excellent quality tuner that will allow the piece to be played, nightly, in bars or churches, for decades to come. The oval port is surrounded by red, crème and black marquetry and the top is bordered in black-crème-black purfling. The humped-back is bird’s eye maple of great beauty and decent vision, while the sides are merely curly. Top and back are bound in black and the rest, as they say, $*,*** or at our cash discount price, $*,***.

I took out the price, because I don't want to feel bad about my purchase by having someone say I paid too much or too little. #If this post is too long and too boring for you, why are you still reading? #I'll be around, I hope.

JEStanek
Apr-21-2006, 12:51pm
Good looking mandolin. #As far as I'm concerned, you paid what you felt like paying. #Here's to smoother roads and chord changes ahead Jeremy.

Jamie

cgwilsonjr
Apr-21-2006, 1:52pm
Jeremy: Great story and it looks like a real sweet mandolin. Mando Bros must be awesome by all accounts I've ever heard. Chuck

Bob DeVellis
Apr-21-2006, 2:17pm
Jeremy - I can totally relate to your falling for the cylinder-back. They're really sweet sounding instruments. As for price, they've been way under-valued for years. Although that's starting to change, I still suspect that you got very good value with respect to musical capacity per dollar. Vega cylinder-backs are among a handful of vintage mandolins that are far better than they've been recognized to be. A few years ago, I would have included teens Gibsons on the same list but they've been discovered. Lyon & Healys were perhaps discovered even before the early Gibson A's because they look so cool that they captured attention. (There are one or two more oldies that I think deserve similar recognition but I'll let others draw their own conclusions.) I like the sound of good cylinder-backs every bit as much as Lyon & Healys and teen Gibsons. Add to that the fact that they were designed by one of the most significant figures in 20th century musical instrument history (David L. Day, who is sort of the Lloyd Loar of banjos but never got fired) and their unique look, and you've got a definite winner. Enjoy!

Jim Garber
Apr-21-2006, 2:19pm
#However, I needed a mandolin that I can take to the Park at night or the Subway, and all the Phoenix mandos are just too beautiful and eminently mugging-worthy.
I lived in NYC for many, many years and carried relatively expensive instruments. Ironically, most muggers, with the exception of ones who read these pages, would not know the difference between a Neoclassical and your Vega.

I was at a party many years ago and there was a guy there with a Loar who lived maybe 6 blocks away. After the party, he said he would take a cab home since he was worreid about the mandolin. He said the worst of it would be that the mugger would look at it an not realizing the true worth, trash it.

OTOH congratulations on the Vega. I am sure it is a fine instrument. I hope it meets your expectations.

Jim

Fliss
Apr-21-2006, 2:56pm
That looks great, Jeremy, thanks for sharing. The birdseye maple is beautiful!

I tried out a Vega cylinder back a few months ago, and it was a joy to play and sounded fantastic, although that particular one was nowhere near as nice looking as yours. It wasn't what I was looking for at the time, and I bought one that was exactly what I was looking for, but I can easily see the lure of the Vega.

Enjoy!

Fliss

otterly2k
Apr-21-2006, 3:41pm
I have been to Mando Bros. several times, and I don't know if yours is the Vega that I have played there before, but I and others have mentioned the sweet surprise in picking up a Vega cylinderback there, even in the company of many magnificent mandos it truly stood out.

Congrats! When you get your Neoclassical, I'll be glad to take that Vega off your hands... http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Moose
Apr-21-2006, 3:48pm
Hey Jeremy! - Women= "easy-come-easy-go" ; a good mandolin!?..., now that's a different "account"!! - (ops!! - I'm outta' here!)- Enjoy your mando and your music. Moose. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

FlawLaw
Apr-21-2006, 3:56pm
Those Vega cylinderbacks are really special instruments. Congrats! I have loved them since seeing and hearing Norman Blake playing a Vega in his Homespun mandolin video.

And a nice move to the Yupper West Side, nice! When my wife and I were first married (and I was finishing up my final year at Union Theological Seminary), I lived at the corner of 123rd and Broadway in a little efficiency apartment, and it almost killed our marriage being in a cramped loud apartment across the street from where the subway went from the underground to elevated tracks at the 125th Street Station. But oddly, I sometimes miss those days and living in New York City. Oh well.

atetone
Apr-21-2006, 6:06pm
Nice mando Jeremy.
I just re-discovered my 1918 cylinderback last night in the back of my mando room and promptly took it today to a local repair man for a bit of work.
The nut and bridge have been needing to be touched up since I first got it a couple of years ago and I finally got around to it today.
I had forgotton how nice it sounds and figured that I had better try to make it the best it can be.
It should be back in a week or so and I am looking forward to it.
Lots of good mojo in those old babies!

newbreedbrian
Apr-22-2006, 10:07am
congrats. i played that one last month when i was in nyc. it's a keeper for sure

Guitar Jeremy
Apr-22-2006, 11:28pm
Hey guys. Thanks for all the positive feedback. Since there are some other cylinder-back owners out there, a couple questions.

1. I've never owned an instrument this old before. Stan recommended using the lightest strings possible. If I wanted to go with the Thomastik flat-wounds (which I've heard on a Vega to great results), would I still use light gauge?

2. The instrument was tuned down a half-step. Will it be fine if I leave it in standard tuning?

Thanks, everyone. It is definitely a keeper.

Brad Weiss
Apr-23-2006, 6:33am
1. #I've never owned an instrument this old before. #Stan recommended using the lightest strings possible. #If I wanted to go with the Thomastik flat-wounds (which I've heard on a Vega to great results), would I still use light gauge?

2. #The instrument was tuned down a half-step. #Will it be fine if I leave it in standard tuning?

I'm not a cylinderback owner- but I tried to buy the one that was at Mando Bros last summer, before it was sold out from under me! (Nice snag, Jeremy). But I believe that Thomastik middles are appropriate for a cylinderback, as their mittel gauges are roughly equivalent to most light strings; and it is not uncommon for some folks to tune their instruments down half a step which gives the illusion of slightly more bottom when recording. I think that means it's ok to tune it back up to gdae with no trouble.

I may be mistaken on all fronts, but this is my best informed hunch!